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Personal Attacks in Political Forums by Poobahs Mr Wookie, 5ive, goofybalef AoFrantic etc Personal Attacks in Political Forums by Poobahs Mr Wookie, 5ive, goofybalef AoFrantic etc

06-29-2017 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
So yeah, pokerodox received an infraction for this post and was banned following this post, but it was also a body of work ban. He was not exiled from the forum, and this was his only ban IIRC.

Now, no one commented about this post on its merits, but it is wrought with counterfactual garbage.



Somehow, pokerodox reads articles that say things like:



Reading the article, one would find that all the physical evidence was against Reyes and none implicated the CP5, and that the only evidence against the CP5 was their coerced confessions. Meanwhile, pokerodox asserts a story he apparently made up out of whole cloth, because the sources he cites do not say anything about this:



This is a theory unsupported by any of the cited sources, and it's inconsistent with Trump's own statements on the matter. He's pissing on my leg and trying to tell me it's raining.

After eating his ban, he came back to me to assert that the only mistake he might have made is in believing the confessions of the CP5. Now, had he actually read his own sources, he would have seen text like this:



Not to mention, Reyes confessed too! Why the hell is he, being allegedly supremely rational for believing confessions, only believing the confessions that don't agree with the physical evidence, and then additionally making up his own story that is based on nothing to try and explain this conflict?

Posting fabricated bull**** to impugn black people is about as transparently racist as it gets, and "citing sources" and then lying about their contents is about as transparent as trolling comes. And he was already on a stream of spewing lots of hateful bull****, things like trying to convince liberals that Trump didn't actually want to change immigration policy, and that his imagined conflict between the West and the entire Muslim world was akin to the Cold War.

That said, he still came back to the forum and posted for another couple months without being infracted or banned until apparently getting bored.

this is why politics discussion on this particular site is a problem. any other topic, disagreements don't lead to bans, even if it turns out somebody was lying. of course in this case there was no permanent ban or even exile, so i'm back to not caring very much.


i'm pretty sure cphoya posted all the advice anyone needs on this subject.
06-29-2017 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
you're gonna have to rephrase this if you want me to know what you're talking about. maybe name the person who is "well connected and socially agile " if that's easier.
I don't think you know what I'm talking about at all so I'm going to explain it over 3 phone posts which would be 1 normal post.
06-29-2017 , 12:57 AM
First off a common theme I hear about my post from trolls is that I'm playing dumb . This is incorrect, I'm simply more polite than them. This admittedly confuses a lot of posters despite me being a 100% honest about it . They mistake social etiquette for meanness because they do not have a long history of talking to rich psychopaths.
06-29-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
this is why politics discussion on this particular site is a problem. any other topic, disagreements don't lead to bans, even if it turns out somebody was lying. of course in this case there was no permanent ban or even exile, so i'm back to not caring very much.


i'm pretty sure cphoya posted all the advice anyone needs on this subject.
I would instead argue that people don't resort to transparent lying on other subjects, so bans aren't as needed on other subjects. I would certainly hope that if someone posted a link to LeBron James's stats to support an argument that he's a worse player than Michael Jordan and then lied about what their own link said, and then lied about why they said something that was different than what their link said, and that this was after posting a bunch of lies about Steph Curry's stats, that they'd get banned in SE, too. Generally, Seahawks fans and Niners fans agree on what the stats are (even if reasonable people can disagree on what stats are the most informative), but in politics, people want to use their own alternative stats.

The other difference is that if dkgo posts something racist and eats a ban in SE, he doesn't come whining to ATF that he was banned just because he's a Panthers fan.
06-29-2017 , 01:01 AM
So most of the people I talk to are rich cray people in Johnson county which is the richest county in a 4 state area. When you grow up amongst a lot of rich psychopaths and are the victim you grow a large amount of empathy for the weak. Everything you say is rephrased in terms of embarrassg households. I like to defend innocence because mine was raped a long time ago.
06-29-2017 , 01:05 AM
As someone who grew up with the craziest amongst crazies in NYC and kc I became used to people saying things they don't believe at all, and comfortable ****ing with smart people- I knew a lot of rich people and still do. Inviting a bunch of trolls is a mistake precisely because of that. I Kim in my personal life theee are many attractive men and women I may have chose to invite on 2p2 but did not because I, who as I have stated many times am very perceptive and realized they would be treated badly.

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06-29-2017 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
this is why politics discussion on this particular site is a problem. any other topic, disagreements don't lead to bans, even if it turns out somebody was lying. of course in this case there was no permanent ban or even exile, so i'm back to not caring very much.


i'm pretty sure cphoya posted all the advice anyone needs on this subject.
Mat. What's your opinion on the post that I quoted advocating assassination of several members of congress?

Do you think that is acceptable on this site?
06-29-2017 , 01:10 AM
Also on Britney Spears who as a gay Man is seriously my idol, I don't think you understand. If the average 2p2 psycho was talking to Britney a thought bubble would occur over them and it would sound something like this: woaw im so good about coding and science Britney is really hot but she's so dumb I don't know how to communicate with her. There's some truth to this. If you went to Berkeley or mit. But there's a deeper truth you breeders don't understand, the real truth is Britney is smarter than you , you lack the nuance and social grace of an artist at that level.
06-29-2017 , 01:12 AM
I mean I'm a gay guy who doesn't give a fiuck either way but my god!
06-29-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I would instead argue that people don't resort to transparent lying on other subjects, so bans aren't as needed on other subjects. I would certainly hope that if someone posted a link to LeBron James's stats to support an argument that he's a worse player than Michael Jordan and then lied about what their own link said, and then lied about why they said something that was different than what their link said, and that this was after posting a bunch of lies about Steph Curry's stats, that they'd get banned in SE, too. Generally, Seahawks fans and Niners fans agree on what the stats are (even if reasonable people can disagree on what stats are the most informative), but in politics, people want to use their own alternative stats.

The other difference is that if dkgo posts something racist and eats a ban in SE, he doesn't come whining to ATF that he was banned just because he's a Panthers fan.
that works too. bottom line is that people who want to talk about sports and/ or politic should do so without getting me involved. i just make things worse, imo.

though i still do favor additional mods being added to politics if there are volunteers wookie and tom agree to have on board.
06-29-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Mat. What's your opinion on the post that I quoted advocating assassination of several members of congress?

Do you think that is acceptable on this site?
no.
06-29-2017 , 01:14 AM
But yeah you mods should keep trolling me by ignorance great job I'm sure Davis and mason will be super pleased.
06-29-2017 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
no.
Does the fact that no action has been taken over it concern you?
06-29-2017 , 01:23 AM
Mat my last post , and I don't actually know how perceptive you are, we're meant in the most genuine and kind way.
06-29-2017 , 01:26 AM
When I talk to people like el diablo , jman , gozmo, low key, dr spaceman I'm always greeted well. Do you not think there is a reason for that? It's the middling ground people who do not posess my transcendent sociableness who dislike my brilliant posts.
06-29-2017 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
no.
Is there something I should take a look at? I put Sushy on ignore because he is a dishonest troll.
06-29-2017 , 01:38 AM
perhaps it takes a certain kind of open mindedness to appreciate the pure artistry that is your posts?

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06-29-2017 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Is there something I should take a look at? I put Sushy on ignore because he is a dishonest troll.
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i truly believe that some unhinged lunatic needs to go and shoot up congress again, and actually take a few of them out this time. then, MAYBE, they will see that there are consequences to passing legislation that kills off millions of americans just to let the top .5% income earners pocket a few extra bucks. you're ****ing with people's lives, with people's families, and then going out in public and constantly spewing lies to the people you were elected to represent. it's unconscionable and none of these sociopaths deserve to draw another breath
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06-29-2017 , 01:43 AM
Maybe try some million man/women marches first...
06-29-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Is there something I should take a look at? I put Sushy on ignore because he is a dishonest troll.

noodle quoted it. my radar for what's offensive isn't very good. but i assume that type of post shouldn't be allowed.
06-29-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
When I talk to people like el diablo , jman , gozmo, low key, dr spaceman I'm always greeted well. Do you not think there is a reason for that? It's the middling ground people who do not posess my transcendent sociableness who dislike my brilliant posts.
i'm quite tired and not perceptive at all right now.

but it seems to me virtually everyone sees you as a kind and likable person. despite whether they appreciate you or understand you.
06-29-2017 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
perhaps it takes a certain kind of open mindedness to appreciate the pure artistry that is your posts?
No, my posts are actually great.
06-29-2017 , 02:17 AM
[QUOTE=BroadwaySushy;52454462]Mat. What's your opinion on the post that I quoted advocating assassination of several members of congress?

Do you think that is acceptable on this site?[/QUOTE


i addressed it in this thread with mr wookie as you probably saw.

if you want more insight into the way i feel about things, see my location.
06-29-2017 , 02:17 AM
He could just be following trumps advice on the 2nd Amendment peoples way of things.


But yeah thats a little over the top.
06-29-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i'm quite tired and not perceptive at all right now.

but it seems to me virtually everyone sees you as a kind and likable person. despite whether they appreciate you or understand you.
I mean mat , I'm not trying to **** with you. If I was I would have gone about it a much different way. I'm just a perceptive gay guy who treats people well. I don't really care about this forum but on a scale I hope it does well. I'm just saying there is an amount of trolling in the social forums that is unacceptable. Gizmo who I like very much is not my main *****. I found both lc and gizmo to be too innocent to be involved in my baggage when I met them so on multiple meet ups I was courteous and steered them in a different direction because of me. Not them . This was easy because noodle is legit very cute and confident but not my type. I still like them tho

      
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