Why on Earth would that post warrant a ban? I think there is a legitimate case to be made that the CTF were involved in the crime. It became a political football in NYC and no longer related to the merits. Was Trump's position on it aggressive? Certainly. The CTF were never at risk of the death penalty given that the victim didn't die, so Trump's rhetoric on that point was definitely over the top. But his motivation is not necessarily racist. LOL at Lovett's twitter.

Goofy, there is no question that the liberal media were ridiculously simple and political on this one. Lovett's tweet is a good example. There is nothing at all out of line about that post other than the fact that the left doesn't like its conclusion.

pdox - In the same statement you were responding to (you didn't paste the tweet contents) Trump called it "outrageous" that the case was settled, in other words entirely rejecting the notion that any miscarriage of justice was done by convicting them of a crime they didn't commit. Even if we give Trump your super charitable and undeserved benefit of the doubt on the "guilty" aspect of the statement, the rest of it is still unreasonable as hell. I'm pretty disappointed that you're still standing by this posting.

As for the body of work, I'm traveling most of the day but maybe Wookie can speak to the ban if he remembers.

I am not going to review and investigate while at work. I may remember to when I get home.

So you agree that the post is not ban-worthy.

You're disappointed that I think Trump was reasonable on that issue, ok.

There was no "body of work" type mention in the ban notice. I think the ban notice itself is a direct moderation issue, so my posting it here should not be a problem. I think all of the PMs re moderation should be open for discussion, but I'll wait to see if MrWookie wants to weigh in or if the mods here or Mat want to comment on that.

Edit: Was replying to goofyballer.

Thanks. From your first post it wasn't clear if you realize the distinction between Trump's ad at the time of the Meili assault/rape versus his positions around the election. I don't think he ever said they were guilty of rape in the timeframe of the election. Just guilty.

...and that it's outrageous that the case of wrongly convicted men was settled, but who's paying attention. And definitely don't think about what his "guilty" statement could have meant, just give a notorius liar and blowhard the benefit of the doubt and assume as a default he meant it in the least offensive way possible, like we know he always does.

There is a fully legitimate and supported position that the settlement was and is outrageous.

Speaking of ban-worthy posts. If that post of rep+lol's doesn't warrant a permaban I don't know what does.

That's a great example of the Internet magnifier. I know +rep IRL and we disagree about almost everything political, but we get along just fine. He's a good guy.

He may be a "good guy" irl, but that post is literally an incitement to assassinate people.

Are you saying that because he may be a good guy irl he shouldn't be held accountable for posts on the internet?

I understand and I'm not defending the post. I'm Im pointing out the impact that impersonal communication has on the social dynamic.

And we all know why nothing happens about that post, because it was posted by a liberal. If a conservative had posted something like that it would have been an insta permaban.

Looks like a 2nd amendment solution to me. I thought all the Trump peeps were cool with that?

Exactly why internet forums have rules. As long as they are being applied, that is.

In this case they aren't.

Plz go post in the P/Pv8.8 forums.

He's a Smart Guy Centrist who also happens to be a very smart guy, unlike most SMCs.

HT rustled


Break up that administrative state and cut those taxes but make sure to trample states' rights whilst wasting both state and federal time and resources to ensure all those harmless brown busboys get what's coming to them!

You know, it's a good thing you stuck 'repealing government-run health care' in between those as otherwise people mighta thunk you had the nonsensical belief system of a stupid child. Close call.

I was typing up a longer reply to this last night which I will let go because the thread has moved on, but I do need to point out that the bold is you parroting exactly what I was criticizing in the post you replied to. It is demonstrably untrue on multiple levels. If your description were accurate then prior to 2015 I could have dumped 500 gallons of benzene in the upper rapids of the Niagara River because "lol not navigable".

The "significant nexus" standard was introduced by the SCOTUS (not by the EPA), in 2001. The ruling that adjacent waterways were under EPA purview was established in a unanimous SCOTUS decision in 1985. I don't know these things because of whatever CNN and WSJ op-ed's you were referring to, but because I can read the damn rules myself. The "overreach" and expansion of powers and all that other nonsense is bull****.

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...-united-states

So, like, you're just triple-dog-daring people to go all left-wing-authoritarian and tell you that people with your arrogant ignorance don't get a say anymore? That's an interesting gambit.

FFS let me flee this thread for a bit before I get banned.


Let's just say dude did not know and had no interest in learning what the term Voodoo Economics meant but had the inclination to write lengthy treatises about The Savage Negro Beasts.

Mat and bobo there are zero circumstances where it's a good idea to let a bunch of trolls run your social forums.

Since there seems to be a large amount of hateful regressiveness on this forum by nazis I just wanted to point out ignoring someone as well connected and socially agile will only lead to pain for you , your mentally stunted ideas of what intelligence is, and to the 2p2 community.

So yeah, pokerodox received an infraction for this post and was banned following this post, but it was also a body of work ban. He was not exiled from the forum, and this was his only ban IIRC.

Now, no one commented about this post on its merits, but it is wrought with counterfactual garbage.

Somehow, pokerodox reads articles that say things like:

Reading the article, one would find that all the physical evidence was against Reyes and none implicated the CP5, and that the only evidence against the CP5 was their coerced confessions. Meanwhile, pokerodox asserts a story he apparently made up out of whole cloth, because the sources he cites do not say anything about this:

This is a theory unsupported by any of the cited sources, and it's inconsistent with Trump's own statements on the matter. He's pissing on my leg and trying to tell me it's raining.

After eating his ban, he came back to me to assert that the only mistake he might have made is in believing the confessions of the CP5. Now, had he actually read his own sources, he would have seen text like this:

Not to mention, Reyes confessed too! Why the hell is he, being allegedly supremely rational for believing confessions, only believing the confessions that don't agree with the physical evidence, and then additionally making up his own story that is based on nothing to try and explain this conflict?

Posting fabricated bull**** to impugn black people is about as transparently racist as it gets, and "citing sources" and then lying about their contents is about as transparent as trolling comes. And he was already on a stream of spewing lots of hateful bull****, things like trying to convince liberals that Trump didn't actually want to change immigration policy, and that his imagined conflict between the West and the entire Muslim world was akin to the Cold War.

That said, he still came back to the forum and posted for another couple months without being infracted or banned until apparently getting bored.

you're gonna have to rephrase this if you want me to know what you're talking about. maybe name the person who is "well connected and socially agile " if that's easier.