nevermind

lol this prop bet is so ****ed up

GARY WINS. STFU.

There's still the matter of looking over the other hands.

Here is the response I got from a PM I sent to breeezzz.

um this is the first time I played cash game for a long time. I stopped playing the last few months, and I just started playing recently, was running good and then ran horrible again. I just decided whatever and to play some cashg ame again. The guy was really aggro, and he reraised me again, so I decided to play back. I didn't sit out, I just ran out of money because
I withdrew all my money before and it was all I had, and the rest of my money was on other tables, and I won some back in HU.

I don't know if this is good enough or whatever, but just so you know I don't even bet in prop bets, nor have I ever been involved in prop bets.

Thanks.

As a bettor, I would like to see an additional judge, maybe one of the ones terp suggested (as I do not know who might want to do this/be capable of it/motivated, whatever).
Not necessarily because of that T7 hand only, but because of the money at stake and because of the prop bet overall...

So far, congrats Gary, seems like you're gonna win this one. Just need to give this a clean ending so that everyone is happy and reputation stays intact, lol.

Yeah, it's pretty standard/not surprising for someone who is playing higher than they normally do to way overadjust their aggression or whatever trait they think they need to adjust.

You ppl suck. There is no way some 2+2er would do this and in this way. Not with a couple hands to go and everyone watching.
And Gary how the hell can you be up 1.7k with 5000 hands to go and put urself in that situation??
This proves that this guy just wanted to play fair even though he could have folded his way to victory..

Lemming, both guys terp suggested are certainly able. I am unsure if they're willing but will contact them in a few hours when I wake up if nobody else has.

not commenting on whether there was dumping or not, but just saying, asking a guy if he chipdumped is a pretty pointless but understand why u did it anyway. hopefully someone like rider can straighten this out.

Congratz Mr Neville.

cliffs?

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Well, I have followed too many of these kind of props, but can't it easily happen where OP's database misses some hands and when he thinks hes still showing a profit, he could be down? Anyways, there is like 0 chance he was cheating, I mean come on, he's asian. Well, if the hands from PokerStars does indeed show a profit, then GG.

Lol @ people thinking OP got chip dumped..
It was villain's first hand at the table and OP just happened to have QQ vs him in the very first hand. How the hell do you expect OP to signal villain during the hand to make it clear to villain that he has a good hand??..
Chip dump theory just doesn't make sense, since if he was chip dumping he would indeed just 4bet/fold obv..
OP obv won this bet, no doubt about it, gg.

This breez guy must love it that his play is considered so bad that he gets suspected of chip dumping.

And yeah, well done gary!

sure as hell seems that way. But I really did believe the odds were not really fair at all for this and def thought/think having this guy as the judge was just ridiculous. Does it really matter if there is a judge? 9 times out of 10 no... What I posted didn't really have any affect on anything toward the prop and was just pretty pointless in the end. O well, thats life.

With props I might do in the future, I am not really to worried. They will be difficult as **** and I will get all the action I want.

ship kid the money, cant prove anything, gg

Give that man his money!!

If you want me to look over the hands I can do that. Send me a PM if needed.

this

No need to "prove" anything... Just needs to be checked by judges. Routine procedure.

Fwiw I'm not accusing him of anything, and he obviously deserved the money! (and the sleep, lol)

congrats gary, good work!

i didnt even bet was jsut following but when ur down 150 wiht less tehn 500 hands and a guy comes adn does that vs u it looks really fishy i mean its so easy to get away wiht and no1 can prove

i jsut think it sets bad example when stuff like this happens and nothign is done about ti in prop bets

You also want a free 30k hands for your database?

Has anybody actually confirmed the number with stars? Seems like there's a lot of trust for an unverified database.

are there cliff notes?