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03-20-2010
, 07:00 PM
Haven't really read most of this and don't really care too much anyway but can confirm that I always play super-spewy when I take random shots. 5-bet shipping A4o 2nd hand ftw 
That doesn't mean it's obviously not a chip dump just that the fact that a 10nl guy decided to ship pre with T4o at 200nl doesn't really prove it's collusion. And no offense to him but when micro players try to make bluffs like that usually it's just random hands they're not thinking about the best hands in their range to do it with. It's usually just **** you quit bluffing me I'M ARRRRIN. Anyway gj OP and judges should do their jobs but unless there's more to it than just that one hand have a super hard time believing judges would rule against him.
That doesn't mean it's obviously not a chip dump just that the fact that a 10nl guy decided to ship pre with T4o at 200nl doesn't really prove it's collusion. And no offense to him but when micro players try to make bluffs like that usually it's just random hands they're not thinking about the best hands in their range to do it with. It's usually just **** you quit bluffing me I'M ARRRRIN. Anyway gj OP and judges should do their jobs but unless there's more to it than just that one hand have a super hard time believing judges would rule against him.
03-20-2010
, 08:20 PM
03-20-2010
, 10:08 PM
03-20-2010
, 11:08 PM
First off, congrats Gary epic effort well done!
As a bettor, if we can get one of the other judges suggested by terp etc to go through the same process Wraths has below and they get the same results then I think everything would be sorted.
Only thing I would ask is did you get the HHs from Gary or directly from stars? Obv directly from stars is much better. Considering he just squeaked over the line one HEM error in his DB or something could make a huge difference.
As a bettor, if we can get one of the other judges suggested by terp etc to go through the same process Wraths has below and they get the same results then I think everything would be sorted.
Only thing I would ask is did you get the HHs from Gary or directly from stars? Obv directly from stars is much better. Considering he just squeaked over the line one HEM error in his DB or something could make a huge difference.
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I feel very confident that Gary_Neville is the winner of this bet. He finished 30k hands with a profit of $19.50. I also feel confident that there was no chip dumping that took place. In order to look for this I did two things.
1) I looked at the vs Players tab in HEM and obviously looked at who he won money from and paid specific attention to the hands that got to show down and his opponents cards. Looking at this I found no indication of chip dumping.
2) Again I looked in the vs Players tab and sorted the results by # of pots lost (vs that opponent). I checked opponents who Gary_Neville lost few pots to and won money from. Again there was no indication of chip dumping here.
There were 30,060 hands that were played after the time stipulated had begun. So I had to manually delete 60 hands. The graph is that of the first 30,000 hands after time had begun. If there are any questions please feel free to PM me.
1) I looked at the vs Players tab in HEM and obviously looked at who he won money from and paid specific attention to the hands that got to show down and his opponents cards. Looking at this I found no indication of chip dumping.
2) Again I looked in the vs Players tab and sorted the results by # of pots lost (vs that opponent). I checked opponents who Gary_Neville lost few pots to and won money from. Again there was no indication of chip dumping here.
There were 30,060 hands that were played after the time stipulated had begun. So I had to manually delete 60 hands. The graph is that of the first 30,000 hands after time had begun. If there are any questions please feel free to PM me.
03-21-2010
, 06:01 AM
03-21-2010
, 06:38 AM
03-21-2010
, 07:13 AM
