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07-03-2007 , 07:55 PM
Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugo
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07-03-2007 , 08:53 PM
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Variance will have him hitting .355 in the 2nd half, right?
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07-03-2007 , 09:05 PM
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Variance will have him hitting .355 in the 2nd half, right?
I'd be happy with him hitting what he was projected to hit.
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07-03-2007 , 09:05 PM
god wily mo sucks
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07-03-2007 , 10:02 PM
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god wily mo sucks
That's #4, called the golden sombrero, I believe.

But cheer up, counting tonites game the sox play TB one in every 4.5 games for the rest of the year.
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07-04-2007 , 02:53 PM
Managed to get tickets to game 4 of the Rangers series whilst on holiday. Very pleased that I did.
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07-04-2007 , 03:05 PM
you will get to see two gyroballers!
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07-04-2007 , 04:18 PM
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I guess my point is that the overproduction from Lowell, Youk, Pedroia, Okerjeemer, Tavarez kinda cancels it out.
lowell- EqA .279

2006 = EqA .269

if you recall correctly he was v good 1st half last year and sucked 2nd half. considering that trend (as it has occured for a bit now i think, and he is older) its not like hes playing out of his mind good.

pedroia-

EqA- .288

PECOTA projected a .277 EqA for this season, but based upon what they expect from him in the future .288 is far from being lucky. hes just good. nate has been saying he will be good for 2 years now.

its not 'luck' just because hes outperforming your expectations (whatever they were).

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same as above. when a 28 year old who walks a ton starts hitting for more power, its not really luck. its development and/or player peak.

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no argument here. he has been better than anybody could have expected and its hard to see him being that good going forward.

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i mean hes not been awful, but hes hasnt been anything great either. his k/9 bb/9 arent anything out of where his career norms have been, hes leaving a normal amount of runners on base, and hes keeping the ball on the ground. basically hes been a very poor mans version of CM wang. i dont see LUCK here.....perhaps he was better suited to start his whole career? who knows. he is also benefitting from a good defense up the middle for the red sox. as awful as lugo has been at the plate, hes a good defensive SS. i mean good in the real sense, not the crap that jeter gets awarded for. pedroia seems to be a above average defensive 2B also. not shocking when he came up as a SS. youkiliis and lowell appear to be average at worst also. helps a ton when myou put the ball on the ground a lot.

now when you look at the opposite side of the debate, the UNLUCKY guys....its hard to not see that guys like ramirez, lugo, crisp, and drew have not been where they 'should' be considering the rather large sample sizes that say they are good to great MLB hitters.

sorry, you are wrong. i am right. that is all
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07-04-2007 , 04:20 PM
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sorry, you are wrong. i am right. that is all
ha
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07-04-2007 , 04:21 PM
btw i can admit deafet on pena. hes just not gonna do good things for this team. he needs to be ona team where he can hit 5-6 days a week. plus ellsbury being on the bench and getting 1-2 starts a week would pwn. an outfield (in late innings) of him, crisp and drew is just sick good.
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07-04-2007 , 04:48 PM
odds WMP is traded and Ellsbury stays up?
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07-04-2007 , 04:52 PM
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We had this arguement today at my brother's cookout regarding Ellsbury. They all said Ellsbury needs to play everyday and would be better off down in Pawtucket.

I disagree. The way Tito uses players he wouldn't rot on the bench and he brings another dimension to the team. Also, look in his eyes, he already looks like he belongs. I think he stays up.

Second part, if the Sox can get a bag of balls for WMP he's gone.
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07-04-2007 , 05:01 PM
I think WMP for one of the Rangers relievers would make sense.

re: Ellsbury and playing time, I think, like Sublime said, he could be a late inning defensive guy fairly often. he wouldnt be getting 5 AB's every game, but I think he could get into some of 3 or 4 games a week pretty easily.
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07-04-2007 , 05:04 PM
get the other gyroballer zomg
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07-04-2007 , 05:20 PM
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odds WMP is traded and Ellsbury stays up?
We had this arguement today at my brother's cookout regarding Ellsbury. They all said Ellsbury needs to play everyday and would be better off down in Pawtucket.

I disagree. The way Tito uses players he wouldn't rot on the bench and he brings another dimension to the team. Also, look in his eyes, he already looks like he belongs. I think he stays up.

Second part, if the Sox can get a bag of balls for WMP he's gone.
lol, he wont be given away. if that was the case he would be gone already. he wont net bronson arroyo in retrun at this time, but he still has good value. a team like the rangers actually makes sense.
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07-04-2007 , 05:27 PM
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Also, look in his eyes, he already looks like he belongs. I think he stays up.

lolol
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07-04-2007 , 05:28 PM
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Also, look in his eyes, he already looks like he belongs. I think he stays up.

lolol
odds that toro was even joking a little? 4%
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07-04-2007 , 05:41 PM
.5
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07-04-2007 , 05:45 PM
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this is why I continue to pwn you stat guys
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07-04-2007 , 05:46 PM
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you guys are all idiots except for sublime.
Anything post-this is obv suspect.
hey want to make another dinner bet? pats season wins vs jets. whats should the line be.... pats -8 games?
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07-04-2007 , 05:47 PM
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this is why I continue to pwn you stat guys
lol. kyleb wins.

and no, you dont.
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07-04-2007 , 05:49 PM
yes i do
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07-04-2007 , 05:50 PM
now you're supposed to post no you dont
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07-04-2007 , 05:53 PM
well you don't obviously
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07-05-2007 , 05:57 AM
Meh, maybe I do and maybe I don't. But don't dismiss out of hand this stuff. You can't tell me that you can't tell the difference of some kid who looks like a deer caught in headlights and this kid. I felt the same way about Pedroia early this Spring when he was hitting a buck fifty.

Just like in Poker, stats are important but you got to be able to read people and situations.
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