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07-23-2007 , 05:12 PM

#1451

sublime

Mr. Roper

Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 22,527

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also i am wondering where all those people who were like, "LOL at the idea of an offense running bad" are now??

I don't know if you're specifically targeting me with this quote or just randomly addressing a bunch of people on the board, but I'll respond:

I don't think, nor did I ever say, that an offense can't run bad. I certainly believe that an offense can run bad and I also agree that there has been some of that in the Red Sox offense over the last month and a half. Without a doubt. I just think they've been playing bad also.

To continue the poker metaphor that somebody used a couple of days ago, if a winning player is losing over an extended period of time, it's probably due to running bad, but also that player has probably been not playing as well as they normally do. I know that's been the case for my poker career whenever I've had an extended losing streak.

So, no, "the best players don't always win", as that poster said, but there certainly can be different reasons as to why. It's you guys who sound like the bad players who just think they constantly run bad without even possibly considering that it's more than just bad luck.

its SOOOOOO easy to tell if a team is running bad or playing bad usually. look at the underlying stats that go into scoring runs (getting on base, slg%) if those are both at high levels and a team isn't scoring then they are running bad. if they are at low levels, then they are playing bad. you were given the underlying stats on countless occasions that showed they were running bad, yet just ignored them because they didn't back up what you 'saw'.

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07-23-2007 , 05:14 PM

#1452

sublime

Mr. Roper

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btw, I'M DARTH NIHILUS

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07-23-2007 , 06:36 PM

#1453

sublime

Mr. Roper

Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 22,527

ybody read anything new on ortiz? i assume hes just getting extra rest, but i havent seen anything concrete.

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07-23-2007 , 07:28 PM

#1454

ajml

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,259

someone at work was telling me his shoulder is acting up again too now. also, sick top of the 1st now all lester needs to do is throw strikes.

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07-23-2007 , 08:34 PM

#1455

ajml

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,259

well doesnt look like much has changed with Lester unfortunately

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07-23-2007 , 08:38 PM

#1456

gehrig

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this grady sizemore grand slam is gonna piss me off so much

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07-23-2007 , 08:40 PM

#1457

owsley

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,277

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this grady sizemore grand slam is gonna piss me off so much

qft

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07-23-2007 , 08:40 PM

#1458

Uston

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well doesnt look like much has changed with Lester unfortunately

Assuming he luckboxes his way out of this inning, definitely.

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07-23-2007 , 08:43 PM

#1459

gehrig

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god jon lester sucks

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07-23-2007 , 08:53 PM

#1460

ajml

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,259

i guess Lester does deserve to run as well as he does on the mound, its pretty ridiculous though

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07-23-2007 , 08:57 PM

#1461

anononon

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GOD DAMNIT LESTER START GETTING SHELLED

signed
an indians fan

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07-23-2007 , 09:03 PM

#1462

TheRover

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GOD DAMNIT LESTER START GETTING SHELLED

signed
an indians bettor. seriously this is absurd.

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07-23-2007 , 10:28 PM

#1463

34TheTruth34

Mark's Dirty Sanchez

Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,416

Just got home. How did he pitch today? The numbers look good, anyway.

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07-24-2007 , 03:23 PM

#1464

zer0

Pooh-Bah

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Just got home. How did he pitch today? The numbers look good, anyway.

everyone will say he sucked cause he sucks and is overrated and can't get out major league hitters like our 29 y.o. top prospect devern hansack

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07-24-2007 , 03:38 PM

#1465

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Just got home. How did he pitch today? The numbers look good, anyway.

everyone will say he sucked cause he sucks and is overrated and can't get out major league hitters like our 29 y.o. top prospect devern hansack

i lol'd

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07-25-2007 , 12:09 AM

#1466

34TheTruth34

Mark's Dirty Sanchez

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Alright, dude, I'm done arguing. Seriously.

If you wanna look at the Red Sox as a world class pro who's running bad instead of a breakeven player, that's fine. It really doesn't matter, the end result is still the same.

This team has played .500 ball for almost 2 months now. And it wouldn't shock me if they played .500 ball for the rest of the season.

BTW, I also think it's amusing that you guys have come out with the "SEE, I TOLD YOU I WAS RIGHT" attitude after racking up a bunch of runs vs. the horrible White Sox pitching staff.

and you're not Darth Nihilus, I'M DARTH NIHILUS!

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07-25-2007 , 12:47 AM

#1467

Uston

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This team has played .610 ball for almost 4 months now. And it wouldn't shock me if they played .610 ball for the rest of the season.

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07-25-2007 , 09:45 AM

#1468

Mr. Clean

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Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,971

i think it's fair that we have a lefty with marginal stuff who infuriates others with his 3.5 ERA / 1.7 WHIP, since the sox get brutalized by that exact kind of pitcher all the [censored] time

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07-25-2007 , 04:54 PM

#1469

ajml

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i think it's fair that we have a lefty with marginal stuff who infuriates others with his 3.5 ERA / 1.7 WHIP, since the sox get brutalized by that exact kind of pitcher all the [censored] time

If I were the owner of the Orioles or Devils Rays I'd figure I'm not winning the division anyways and get 5 of these guys for a year just to go 17-1 against the Red Sox and call Epstein cocked and laughing after every game.

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07-25-2007 , 09:26 PM

#1470

sylar

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20,307

quick question for you red sox fans.

is Fausto Carmona the guy who got brutalized by Ortiz last season with back-to-back walkoffs? if not, who was it?

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07-25-2007 , 09:33 PM

#1471

owsley

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wtf guys. that was an abomination of an inning.

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07-25-2007 , 09:36 PM

#1472

sylar

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lol, i didn't know two guys could get caught stealing 2nd in one inning. i guess they can.

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07-25-2007 , 09:56 PM

#1473

Toro

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lol, i didn't know two guys could get caught stealing 2nd in one inning. i guess they can.

Now I can agree that the Sox are "running" bad.

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07-25-2007 , 10:29 PM

#1474

zer0

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that was pretty frustrating. poor beckett.

but [censored] it, win tomorrow and the series was a raging success. maybe one of these single A teams will catch the yankees napping.

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07-26-2007 , 12:05 PM

#1475

kyro

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quick question for you red sox fans.

is Fausto Carmona the guy who got brutalized by Ortiz last season with back-to-back walkoffs? if not, who was it?

yes, it was carmona.

From the little I watched last night, he looked nasty.