Lol at the people saying he doesn't need to cheat. There is no top billing UFC fighter not on PEDs. It's just lol that he got caught... AGAIN. What a dumbass.

They should develop some farce that Ronda has been training in Thailand and is a changed fighter and throw her in the pit with Cyborg for the lols.

So

Ronda/Cyborg
Mcgregor/Diaz 3

Cormier still crying.

But it's tears of joy now.

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This.

I wonder if there's record holders or champions of any sport that have never doped. They all ****ing do it noobs (not directed at anyone)!

Surely ACR will redund my DC bet

Jones needs to be life time banned. Baseball, basketball, tennis or golf is one thing. Hitting a ball harder or jumping higher, but MMA, NFL, NHL you are hitting another human being, PED's need to be taken way more serious in contact sports.

How does that work? I did parlay bets and had D.C. Involved. Does that mean I get my $ back?

Not sure if you are serious but nah it doesn't. $ is gone.

All conjecture on my part but:

Peds probably do more good than harm when it comes to fighter's overall injuries. The benefits of being able to train better and with fewer injuries probably outweighs the small difference in power of the strike that concusses an opponent.

Anecdotaly it seems there is a higher number of injuries and fights called off post usada, though some of that may been to avoid testing, and loads of brutal KOs still.

Personally I think weight cutting is much more detrimental to fighters health than peds, either as a user or opponent of a user.

I never bet sports. But if something gets overturned after all $ is just lost?


I guess that makes sense since they paid out winners, and they can't collect that $ back I suppose

Haha that would be amazing to get it back but I was jk.

Today is the 5-year anniversary of UFC 151 being cancelled.

Jones/Hendo

Well, there are PEDs that allow you to train better and with fewer injuries.

They are called PEDs for a reason. At an elite level just about 100% of athletes use them. Bones just happens to be also an elite dum-dum to get caught twice.

yeah, usually the provision is 'ruling at the end of the event stands'.

Books had issues with that when they started taking WWE action.

Stop talking nonsense, maybe before USADA that was the case but people are being tested randomly year round now, more than any other sport. When USADA first came in people were getting popped left & right and we saw alot of people fall off and conversely others rise up, the sport is mostly clean now.

Who wants to tell him?

I'll take a crack at it.


ETA: its a highly lucrative cat and mouse game with the mice mostly way ahead. Most dopers in most sports are caught by being rollled on, not testing. Testing has narrowed the margin of error and hurt those who don't have access to the more advanced programs.

Most dopers aren't caught because they have a set date to be tested and they know when to cycle off, with usada & the ufc they have year round randomized testing, if you avoid the test twice then you are automatically suspended. No other sporting organization does this & hence why steroids is still very prevalent in other sports as appose to the ufc.

But...UFC fighters get popped frequently, why are you claiming it is not prevalent? AJ basically admitted use at a presser and always tested clean. Are you suggesting that the fighters who failed have not used other times without detection and others who are not caught are not using?

It is more complex than cycling on and off to match testing so you don't have the PED in your system at the time of testing. They are popped for masking agents a lot.

ROFL...you probably believe in santa clause.

Do you guys even watch the ufc? since USADA has came into existence with them people have been getting caught left & right, it has happened alot less in recent times though(this year). We've also seen alot of guys not only look different but performed differently, & we've seen alot of journey men become contendors because of that as well. if it was a known way to beat the system like you guys are suggesting then the UFC would look alot different than it has been since USADA has been implemented.

I'm also not saying nobody is using, i'm just saying USADA has scared most of them away and the ones that are still using WILL get caught & the risk not worth the reward.

So you think Conor will beat Floyd in boxing AND that UFC fighters are mostly clean?
Carry on...


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Yeah risk/reward ratio checks out

I do believe USADA has made a difference in asmuich as they've turned the screws on the middle class guys that can't afford good programs or masking agents.

If you've got the cash, all USADA did was make some of your opponents a lot worse.

I mean, I am not going to say all your points are invalid, but here are some things to consider.

• Huge $ for top performers, poverty for bottom performers
• Enormous health and life risks involved in the sport
• Even testing entities admit they are way behind the cutting edge
• Competitors in near zero compensation sports juice
• juicing doesn't just help you win, it helps you train, cut and show up at all in many cases

The people who get busted for juicing in other sports claim they are way ahead of the current testing. While I agree that usada made it easier to get caught, and as I said probably reduced the lower end options available to many, and likely got some dudes to slow down or interrupted their timing to make it sub optimal, it is still the masking agents or in some cases non anabolic peds that many get busted for.

I think you are underestimating the levels people will go to get an edge when they are driven to dedicate their entire existence to a single goal. They ain't right in the head to begin with and already have bad risk reward assement.