The MMA Thread
12-19-2015
, 02:41 AM
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We got to see GSP/Anderson/etc go through their rise, their peak, and their fall. Conor looks new and shiny because we've only seen his rise/peak so far, but the fall will come eventually. Could begin next fight or could be years from now. That's when you can judge his place in history.
Until he gets a few more fights under his belt, it's pointless to compare him to the greats yet. Anderson won 12 title fights in a row, while moving up to 205 and beating a former champion there. He was the undisputed #1 in his weightclass for 7 straight years.
Until he gets a few more fights under his belt, it's pointless to compare him to the greats yet. Anderson won 12 title fights in a row, while moving up to 205 and beating a former champion there. He was the undisputed #1 in his weightclass for 7 straight years.
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GSP won 12 title fights and was on top for ~6 years.
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Jon Jones has 9 title fight wins and has never been beaten except by the sport's rules. and so on for many other fighters.
So many others...ugh no, this is everyone. These are the only guys in the conversation. Perhaps one could give some nostalgic props to Royce Gracie, but he's obviously...obsolete.
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Longevity matters. You can only be judged based on what you've done so far. If conor were to retire today and never fight again, he's not even top 10 all time for UFC fighters in terms of accomplishments.
The UFC has evolved. It started with a bunch of tard wrestlers who dominated for a long time. Just like every other sport, todays athletes are just on another level. Now we have real martial artists like John Jones and Conor who are 3 levels above everyone else.
If someone wanted to say Jones is better...eh...I'll suffer it. But, GSP and Silva are utter trash (who dominated old breed limited wrestlers by having just a decent stand up game, in addition to ground competence) in comparison to Conor and Jones.
Does anyone doubt that Conor could continue to KO everyone who dares weigh in at 145 while fighting one fight a year like your other heroes, and with ease? Of course not. He marched through his division like no other and killed the king in 13 seconds, in the modern era.
Years ago, people would tune in for the first time to see awesomeness, but instead became disillusioned with what was late night Cinemax-esque dry humping, except there were no chicks, just dudes. The MMA world was in desperate need for a real fighter.
Enter McGregor. Conor is basically Bruce Lee incarnated in a little Viking body. He's the living concept of the martial artist that everyone naturally would imagine if informed about this sport for the first time. He's given hope and elevated expectations, and will soon be the first fighter to ever sign a 9 figure contract.
Take away Matt Hughes, who cares about BJ Penn. LOL Randy Couture. But God have mercy on us if we ever allow this enlightened majestic being name Conor McGregor to have his name spoken without reverence by fools.
12-19-2015
, 02:48 AM
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Utter nonsense. He's super close to best ever, if not there now.
Dan Henderson in 2008 then Vitor later, look like Andersons only good wins to me. Lol at his joke fight vs Forrest Griffin.
His opponents were trash. BJ Penn's fat ass should have been fighting at 135. Matt Hughes was an aging primitive wrestler. He ground humped everyone at the end of his career while taking years off between fights.
Jones is good.
So many others...ugh no, this is everyone. These are the only guys in the conversation. Perhaps one could give some nostalgic props to Royce Gracie, but he's obviously...obsolete.
If Conor retired today, it would be paramount to Barry Sanders' retirement, or Jordan leaving to play baseball.
The UFC has evolved. It started with a bunch of tard wrestlers who dominated for a long time. Just like every other sport, todays athletes are just on another level. Now we have real martial artists like John Jones and Conor who are 3 levels above everyone else.
If someone wanted to say Jones is better...eh...I'll suffer it. But, GSP and Silva are utter trash (who dominated old breed limited wrestlers by having just a decent stand up game, in addition to ground competence) in comparison to Conor and Jones.
Does anyone doubt that Conor could continue to KO everyone who dares weigh in at 145 while fighting one fight a year like your other heroes, and with ease? Of course not. He marched through his division like no other and killed the king in 13 seconds, in the modern era.
Years ago, people would tune in for the first time to see awesomeness, but instead became disillusioned with what was late night Cinemax-esque dry humping, except there were no chicks, just dudes. The MMA world was in desperate need for a real fighter.
Enter McGregor. Conor is basically Bruce Lee incarnated in a little Viking body. He's the living concept of the martial artist that everyone naturally would imagine if informed about this sport for the first time. He's given hope and elevated expectations, and will soon be the first fighter to ever sign a 9 figure contract.
Take away Matt Hughes, who cares about BJ Penn. LOL Randy Couture. But God have mercy on us if we ever allow this enlightened majestic being name Conor McGregor to have his name spoken without reverence by fools.
Dan Henderson in 2008 then Vitor later, look like Andersons only good wins to me. Lol at his joke fight vs Forrest Griffin.
His opponents were trash. BJ Penn's fat ass should have been fighting at 135. Matt Hughes was an aging primitive wrestler. He ground humped everyone at the end of his career while taking years off between fights.
Jones is good.
So many others...ugh no, this is everyone. These are the only guys in the conversation. Perhaps one could give some nostalgic props to Royce Gracie, but he's obviously...obsolete.
If Conor retired today, it would be paramount to Barry Sanders' retirement, or Jordan leaving to play baseball.
The UFC has evolved. It started with a bunch of tard wrestlers who dominated for a long time. Just like every other sport, todays athletes are just on another level. Now we have real martial artists like John Jones and Conor who are 3 levels above everyone else.
If someone wanted to say Jones is better...eh...I'll suffer it. But, GSP and Silva are utter trash (who dominated old breed limited wrestlers by having just a decent stand up game, in addition to ground competence) in comparison to Conor and Jones.
Does anyone doubt that Conor could continue to KO everyone who dares weigh in at 145 while fighting one fight a year like your other heroes, and with ease? Of course not. He marched through his division like no other and killed the king in 13 seconds, in the modern era.
Years ago, people would tune in for the first time to see awesomeness, but instead became disillusioned with what was late night Cinemax-esque dry humping, except there were no chicks, just dudes. The MMA world was in desperate need for a real fighter.
Enter McGregor. Conor is basically Bruce Lee incarnated in a little Viking body. He's the living concept of the martial artist that everyone naturally would imagine if informed about this sport for the first time. He's given hope and elevated expectations, and will soon be the first fighter to ever sign a 9 figure contract.
Take away Matt Hughes, who cares about BJ Penn. LOL Randy Couture. But God have mercy on us if we ever allow this enlightened majestic being name Conor McGregor to have his name spoken without reverence by fools.
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12-19-2015
, 10:09 PM
diaz won round 2 hard
round 1 I lean Johnson,
3rd should be Diaz but he got nailed/simili-taken down at the end, great fight
round 1 I lean Johnson,
3rd should be Diaz but he got nailed/simili-taken down at the end, great fight