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07-08-2018 , 04:52 PM

#14876

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy

HW tourney like Bellator

1st round:

Gus vs Jones
Dc vs Brock
Cain vs werdum
Odez vs Stipe

Finals headline a joint wrestlemania/Ufc event

1st round:

Jones by UD
DC by sub
Werdum by 3rd round flying kick
Stipe by 1st round KO

2nd round:

Jones-Werdum: Werdum by 3rd round boomerang
DC-Stipe: DC pulls out due to a food-related injury, Mighty Mouse is the alternate. Mighty Mouse def Stipe by flying knee

Final:

Werdum-MM: Werdum throws MM who circumnavigates the globe and hits the back of Werdum's head, knocking him out. MM heavyweight champion as we all expected.

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07-08-2018 , 05:03 PM

#14877

DodgerIrish

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

If DC/Brock do fight I think there will be another big title fight on that card. Maybe the MW or WW belts, maybe Dillashaw/Cody winner and Mighty Mouse.

DC/Brock has potential to be bad and short and I'm sure Dana will be well aware of that.

No matter what it will be the headliner, the ending is all people care about.

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07-08-2018 , 05:25 PM

#14878

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I didn't say it wouldn't. Just said another big fight will be on that card. Maybe two other title fights.

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07-08-2018 , 05:46 PM

#14879

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

If DC/Brock do fight I think there will be another big title fight on that card. Maybe the MW or WW belts, maybe Dillashaw/Cody winner and Mighty Mouse.

DC/Brock has potential to be bad and short and I'm sure Dana will be well aware of that.

One of those fights where you won't know if you should order 1 last pint before the main event or just nurse one for the last 2 fights haha

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07-08-2018 , 05:48 PM

#14880

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Originally Posted by MediocrePlayer2.0

as someone who only watches 3-4 cards a year, I really enjoyed that and all the wwe **** afterwards too. I know a lot of people hated it, but i was sports entertained

Feel bad for Stipe that he's going to miss the payday but bring on the circus of DC vs Brock.

I guess if UFC wants to be a circus, then fine. I don't see what the point of championships are, though.

A claim to be a legitimate sport kinda goes out the window when Brock gets a title opportunity.

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07-08-2018 , 06:01 PM

#14881

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I guess if UFC wants to be a circus, then fine. I don't see what the point of championships are, though.

A claim to be a legitimate sport kinda goes out the window when Brock gets a title opportunity.

The UFC will take being relevant over being considered a legitimate sport right now. The company is in a spot where the fans have very little to be excited about tbh, ppv sales have been horrible & they need big fights more than they need random people caring whether or not they're a legitimate sport.

Mcgregor vs Floyd was a freak show fight & one of the biggest sporting events of all time, it only helped boxing, it didn't hurt it. Big events/fights is what these sports need.

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07-08-2018 , 06:42 PM

#14882

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Yeah, the "legitimate sport" thing is whatever at this point for the most part. Forrest/Bonnar introduced the masses to MMA 13 years ago, it's been a minute since it has been in the mainstream now. If you like it then you do and if you don't then you don't at this point.

Brock/DC sells 800k-1M PPVs. DC vs anyone else at HW/LHW besides Jones sells sub 300k.

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07-08-2018 , 06:45 PM

#14883

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I don't think so.

Heavyweight is by FAR the weakest division, and Brock is a former heavyweight champion with two successful defences.

Stipe just lost, Ngannou looked bad vs Stipe, Hunts not doing great, Overeem is Oldereem, it's just a really thin division.

CM Punk fighting in the UFC was far worse for credibility than this.

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07-08-2018 , 06:52 PM

#14884

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yeah Brock getting a title shot isn't the worst thing. What's DC gonna do? Fight Curtis Blaydes?

Is that a fight people are pining for? Don't think so.

And considering DC, Brock, GSP are all pushing 40, I think the sport will be getting back to a meritocracy sooner than later.

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07-08-2018 , 09:04 PM

#14885

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

These are reasonable points. I do wonder whether it will hurt MMA long term if most of the "big fights" are just jokes, but I'll concede that in the short term it's certainly good business sense for all parties involved.

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Of course he should fight Curtis Blaydes (or Stipe in a rematch) if you're trying to use a meritocracy argument. What's the point of a championship if you're just going to give title opportunities to whoever sells the most fights?

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07-08-2018 , 10:07 PM

#14886

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It's prizefighting.

You want the biggest prize available.

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07-08-2018 , 10:19 PM

#14887

Prawney

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I get that Blaydes may be more deserving of a title fight but why make a fight that the champion doesnt want, the ufc doesnt want and the majority of fans dont want.

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07-08-2018 , 10:57 PM

#14888

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

It's prizefighting.

You want the biggest prize available.

Sure. No problem with that. Just ditch the championships and have them fight for money.

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07-09-2018 , 01:16 AM

#14889

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

I doubt he ever fights at LHW again.

Never should've fought there in the first place. In a world without Cain he might be undefeated HW champ? Or at least Jones would come up to him.

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07-09-2018 , 01:22 AM

#14890

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Never should've fought there in the first place. In a world without Cain he might be undefeated HW champ? Or at least Jones would come up to him.

The crazy thing is that if Cormier took his diet more serious he probably could get down to 185lbs. He's pretty much the same size as Yoel in muscle mass but 15% more bodyfat.

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07-09-2018 , 01:35 AM

#14891

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Brock is an idiot and u can see steroids as made its mark in his brain...

Pretty funny a guy like brock, getting caught by usada gets reward for a title fight.
Its all about money and nothing else for the ufc.
Sad actually.

Only good thing about all this is DC will have an easy payday.

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07-09-2018 , 10:35 AM

#14892

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07-09-2018 , 12:25 PM

#14893

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Yeah its hilarious.
Not because dc won heavyweight title that Jon jones could do the same .
And JJ got caught twice ...
Probably the same casual fans saying mcchicken was the goat ...

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07-09-2018 , 12:50 PM

#14894

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I can't imagine Brock continuing to fight for any amount of time after fighting DC. What if he wins? I can't imagine him defending the belt. I am sure that the fight with DC is planned as a one off fight.

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07-09-2018 , 12:52 PM

#14895

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Brock vs Jon Jones is a even bigger fight, just let both of them be roided out of their minds & go to war.

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07-09-2018 , 03:13 PM

#14896

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Yeah, if he won then he would likely fight Jones and make even more $.

He probably isn't going to win, infact he is probably going to get his ass kicked so why does he want the DC fight so bad? I get wanting to fight someone like Hunt that he can GnP. But wanting to fight DC and get KO'd doesn't seem all that appealing to him. Is he just that competitive? He doesn't really need the $ as WWE pays him handsomely to be a special attraction.

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07-09-2018 , 03:58 PM

#14897

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If i had to guess id say that Brock feels like the diverticulitis robbed him of his mma career and now that he feels healthy again wants to give it another shot. Even DC who has had a great career at LHW was talking last week about how he would always wonder what could have been if he stayed at HW.

Heres hoping that Brock can get clean so the fight can actually happen.

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07-10-2018 , 01:10 PM

#14898

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Yeah, if he won then he would likely fight Jones and make even more $.

He probably isn't going to win, infact he is probably going to get his ass kicked so why does he want the DC fight so bad?.

Probably help is hype in wwe