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01-23-2019 , 11:46 PM
Is Jones now in a weird situation where the more tests he fails the better he looks as in his story gets more credible? Like if every test had of just came back clean after the last one the explaination given for the failure doesnt add up.

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01-23-2019 , 11:56 PM
His results don't really matter. As long as all he pops for are long-term Tbol metabolites, he's "clean".

If he's clean? He was just pulsing "off". If he pops for long-term metabolites? He was just pulsing "on".

The only time he's in trouble is if his masking agents don't work he re-ingests and pops for short/med term metabolites, new PEDs, or some more Yeyo.
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01-24-2019 , 06:29 AM
and it'd better be regular cocaine, too, not the one cut with steroid tainted creatine
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01-24-2019 , 09:51 AM
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The only time he's in trouble is if his masking agents don't work he re-ingests and pops for short/med term metabolites, new PEDs, or some more Yeyo.
He was just pulsing sideways, obviously.
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01-24-2019 , 11:48 PM
Not really sure how to feel just now.

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01-25-2019 , 08:12 AM
Gonna be sad Sunday morning when I wake up and find out Bader smashed Fedor. Hope he has enough sense to call it quits after this. When you are losing to Fabio Moldanado it is freaking time to stop.
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01-26-2019 , 11:59 PM
Pico has some really good power and yes Corrales can take a shot.
Big knockout for Corrales but Pico needs learn not to rush for the kill.
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01-27-2019 , 12:10 AM
wow what a scary KO...and lol at the ref seeing him fall like that and still let him take a shot on theground. Pico seems to have a suspect chin
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01-27-2019 , 12:34 AM
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01-27-2019 , 04:04 PM
Connor does need a win so Cowboy is a pretty good career choice and I'll definitely watch it but obviously if he only has 2-3 fights left than Cowboy as 1 of them is underwhelming.
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01-27-2019 , 08:42 PM
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Gonna be sad Sunday morning when I wake up and find out Bader smashed Fedor.
And it only took 35 seconds.

Pico seems to have been rushed to where he is now. He's only 22 years old. Dude's career could be over before it begins if he keeps taking on fights like Corrales.
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01-29-2019 , 09:44 PM
9 month ban, $500K fine for Khabib
6 month ban, $50K fine for Conor

http://www.espn.co.uk/mma/story/_/id...-ufc-229-brawl

Complete bull**** that Khabib gets hammered while ****all happens to Conor. Good for Khabib to not fight in Vegas again.
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01-29-2019 , 11:12 PM
Of course Khabib is going to get a bigger punishment for the post fight actions.
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01-29-2019 , 11:30 PM
the deal was negotiated in advance, pretty sure Khabib was fine with paying extra in exchange for leniency for Zuba and his cousin
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01-29-2019 , 11:33 PM
I'd say the fine was a bit too stiff on Khabib and too light on McGregor. Both should have been in the $200k to $250k range. That being said, if the rape case in Ireland moves forward, this will be the least of Conor's concerns regardless.

Khabib not wanting to fight in Vegas is a bit irrational but I suppose these days he could have all his fights in NYC (would produce a similarly high gate). If he were to ever fight GSP that could be in Toronto.
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01-30-2019 , 12:01 AM
Khabib's fine seems fine (ahem), he left the case because someone was mean to him. I love Khabib, but complaining because someone mocked your religion is nonsense. I get that he's from a different culture, and I respect his right to be offended by it, but you're in USA#1, you play by our rules here. He assulted a dude after a sporting event, he's going to get got.

Awesome move if he never fights there again tho. **** 'em, just go to MSG. Vegas doesn't have to be the fight capital of the MMA world, especially with the UFC having an effective monopoly on MMA.
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01-30-2019 , 12:04 AM
Khabib had a chance to cut his time down to 6 months by filming an anti-bullying PSA:

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01-30-2019 , 01:39 AM
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He assulted a dude after a sporting event, he's going to get got.
I guess we could argue this until we're blue in the face but that wasn't assault. That was mutual combat. What Conor did that night was assault.
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01-30-2019 , 02:18 AM
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I guess we could argue this until we're blue in the face but that wasn't assault. That was mutual combat. What Conor did that night was assault.
We can agree to disagree and drop it after, but I'd just like to see if we agree on what happened or if I'm misremembering anything:

-Conor and Khabib fight
-After the fight someone outside the cage (who'd also been saying rude things to Khabib prior to the fight) says and/or gestures to Khabib
-Khabib leaves the cage and runs into the crowd
-While Khabib is outside the cage, members of Khabib's team enter the cage and attack Conor.


(I suppose there's some disagreement to whether or not Conor threw the first punch during the last point, but regardless, people that weren't supposed to be in the cage were there, they were affiliated with the guy that just fought Conor, and were approaching him while their guy was fighting another member of Conor's team. As much as I dislike Conor (and it's a lot), I'm ok with him assuming those guys mean him harm and defending himself given the circumstances.)

Regardless of anything else, leaving the field of play/cage/whatever can endanger spectators in a serious way. If you want mutual combat, you're part of a sport that allows it. Sign a fight agreement and meet in the cage.
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01-30-2019 , 02:55 AM
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We can agree to disagree and drop it after, but I'd just like to see if we agree on what happened or if I'm misremembering anything:

-Conor and Khabib fight
-After the fight someone outside the cage (who'd also been saying rude things to Khabib prior to the fight) says and/or gestures to Khabib
-Khabib leaves the cage and runs into the crowd
-While Khabib is outside the cage, members of Khabib's team enter the cage and attack Conor.


(I suppose there's some disagreement to whether or not Conor threw the first punch during the last point
Incorrect. Emiragaev Esedulla (2nd guy in the last point, wearing the red shirt) did indeed sucker punch Conor from behind. This after Zubaira Tukhugov (the first guy in the last point) and Conor McGregor engaged in mutual combat (Zubaira could have cheap shotted Conor and chose not to).

What you are missing is a bullet point before the last point which is Conor sucker punching Khabib's cousin Abubakar Nurmagomedov when they were both on top of the cage. Abubakar was not attacking Conor. He was just looking to get out of the cage (what Conor wanted to do as well). Conor was in no way defending himself by throwing that punch. This is a critical point because this is the entire reason the 2 from the last point entered the Octagon to attack Conor.

BTW, I'm not excusing any of these guys for entering the Octagon. I'm also not excusing Khabib's actions. His actions could have caused a riot. I'm just arguing that it was mutual combat (rather than assault), but I could be wrong. BTW, Khabib claimed he didn't hear anything Danis said.
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01-30-2019 , 03:34 AM
If khabib just accepts his belt and thanks the ufc and Connor for the fight, then it’s over and everything is gravy. Instead he hurled himself into the crowd like an idiot.

He definitely deserves a larger fine and he definitely deserves a longer suspension.
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01-30-2019 , 03:47 AM
So you're not about that lifestyle?



Timestamp is my favorite video of 2018.
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01-30-2019 , 04:48 AM
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BTW, I'm not excusing any of these guys for entering the Octagon. I'm also not excusing Khabib's actions. His actions could have caused a riot. I'm just arguing that it was mutual combat (rather than assault), but I could be wrong. BTW, Khabib claimed he didn't hear anything Danis said.
That's a distinction without a difference here. Even if it was mutual combat, it was only after all three entered the cage when they weren't supposed to be there and posed a threat to Conor.

(Abubakar Nurmagomedov might have actually been allowed in as part of the post-fight team, but he only came into the cage after Khabib had already left it. No reason for him to enter the cage and present a target to Conor anyway).
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01-30-2019 , 03:42 PM
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That's a distinction without a difference here. Even if it was mutual combat, it was only after all three entered the cage when they weren't supposed to be there and posed a threat to Conor.
I'm not actually understanding what you are talking about. Previously you said he assaulted Dillon Danis and I was just clarifying that it was mutual combat rather than assault. This camera angle validates that as you can see Danis gesture at Khabib multiple times as a sign essentially meaning "come on, lets do this."



You can also see Conor cheap shot in that angle too, but whatever. It's all water under the bridge now. I'm just surprised we're still arguing about that and not this:

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01-30-2019 , 06:11 PM
I think it comes down to there being a difference between a fighter hitting some guy that enters the cage and a fighter leaving the cage to hit someone. Neither guy is in the right but I feel like the commission is much more concerned with a fighter leaving the cage.

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