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11-08-2013 , 10:25 AM
I'm quite interested to see how the PS4 VR headset turns out. If its a better version of oculus rift it could be pretty epic.
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11-08-2013 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
I would take Billy's side on any bet with Wadz over a long enough period.
If you included RB I think wadzon would be a favorite over everybody in a month long profit bet. I mean the guy played 9500 games last month without a bet. With the extra motivation of a bet who knows how many games he could play.
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11-08-2013 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
If you included RB I think wadzon would be a favorite over everybody in a month long profit bet. I mean the guy played 9500 games last month without a bet. With the extra motivation of a bet who knows how many games he could play.
He'd play 10,000 games averagely rather than 4000 well. Volume whores don't do it for me.

A challenge like this is not a measure of volume but of skill. Billy is more skilful. RB would not be included.

Those that can combine both skill and volume IMO are very few and far between.
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11-08-2013 , 05:11 PM
games no
there, but very little
even a$ 30 not recruited : С ума:
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11-08-2013 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
RB would not be included.
AHAHA

I will reveal to you the secret.
It so happens that you can play with ROI of 10%, and I'll play a 0 or a small minus, and profit will be more to me.
And $/hour will have me higher

And your "SKILL" nothing I can't buy
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11-08-2013 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
He'd play 10,000 games averagely rather than 4000 well. Volume whores don't do it for me.

A challenge like this is not a measure of volume but of skill. Billy is more skilful. RB would not be included.

Those that can combine both skill and volume IMO are very few and far between.
I've got way more respect for players like wadzon than for billy who is complaining all the time about how bad he runs even when he just hit a 18k score.

Streity you and everyone else should be happy about "volume whores", even better when they seem to be only slightly +EV. Those guys keep the games alive. I also agree with wadzon that the only number that count for me is $/hour. If wadzon was able to improve his game he would earn way more but probably he's already happy with his current situation.

As I have a lot to do besides poker but only have 14k VPP's left to reach SN I have to play long sessions. This month I was only able to play on 2 days so far but still managed to get 750+ hypers in 9 hours. Nowadays I get bored playing less than 10 tables hypers only. It's a completely different situation when you mix formats imo.

Anyway who cares... Im drunk
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11-08-2013 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wadzon
AHAHA

I will reveal to you the secret.
It so happens that you can play with ROI of 10%, and I'll play a 0 or a small minus, and profit will be more to me.
And $/hour will have me higher

And your "SKILL" nothing I can't buy
Dude. Chillz. We love you playing hypers. Every time I see that Russian flag of yours I have to reg. It's so tilting so good choice of avatar. Every time I see it I think of that knob Putin and I shove

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Originally Posted by Prophili
I've got way more respect for players like wadzon than for billy who is complaining all the time about how bad he runs even when he just hit a 18k score.

Streity you and everyone else should be happy about "volume whores", even better when they seem to be only slightly +EV. Those guys keep the games alive. I also agree with wadzon that the only number that count for me is $/hour. If wadzon was able to improve his game he would earn way more but probably he's already happy with his current situation.

As I have a lot to do besides poker but only have 14k VPP's left to reach SN I have to play long sessions. This month I was only able to play on 2 days so far but still managed to get 750+ hypers in 9 hours. Nowadays I get bored playing less than 10 tables hypers only. It's a completely different situation when you mix formats imo.

Anyway who cares... Im drunk
You missed the point (drunk obviously!).

RB and volume is not a measure of skill. That was my point. Don't think I mentioned that it was less profitable to go volume as it clearly isn't at the right level. Don't think I said I disliked people starting tables either!!
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11-08-2013 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Prophili
I've got way more respect for players like wadzon than for billy who is complaining all the time about how bad he runs even when he just hit a 18k score.

Streity you and everyone else should be happy about "volume whores", even better when they seem to be only slightly +EV. Those guys keep the games alive. I also agree with wadzon that the only number that count for me is $/hour. If wadzon was able to improve his game he would earn way more but probably he's already happy with his current situation.

As I have a lot to do besides poker but only have 14k VPP's left to reach SN I have to play long sessions. This month I was only able to play on 2 days so far but still managed to get 750+ hypers in 9 hours. Nowadays I get bored playing less than 10 tables hypers only. It's a completely different situation when you mix formats imo.

Anyway who cares... Im drunk
lol...you hurt my feeling so much moron. Good job getting your panties in a bunch though.
I make decent mtt scores coz I am good at all games and grind hard even when running like crap.

funny thing is it was a potential bet between biood and I didn't even mention any Russian clown in the bet.
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11-08-2013 , 08:58 PM
Well the time in poker $/hour, it is a trifle, then we determine who is the better for example:
who jumps above or faster reads
who is more to eat donuts is also a good indicator
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11-08-2013 , 09:01 PM
i play poker to make money, $/hour is the only thing which counts.. lots of respect for wadzon even while he's trying to annoy me in the chat... imo the top 3 players are wadzon, juicy and myself... there is a lot of good players besides us but they don't get in a good sample or maybe i'm just missing someone, i dont even know if juicy gets in a good sample this month but I assume.. thats atleast what i think, I'm drunken right now aswell... it doesnt mean i don't have respect for other guys, i just don't realy care about most... obv traktor/waltiph and angri are pretty good but i don't see them too much, juicy and wadzon are the tough faces i'm facing all the time... billygstar might be pretty good roi wise but as wadzon said it just doesnt mean to much, we could 4 table the **** aswell to get higher roi but whats the point.

notice for myself: don't post when you're drunk ( it gets way to long )
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11-08-2013 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
i play poker to make money, $/hour is the only thing which counts.. lots of respect for wadzon even while he's trying to annoy me in the chat... imo the top 3 players are wadzon, juicy and myself... there is a lot of good players besides us but they don't get in a good sample or maybe i'm just missing someone, i dont even know if juicy gets in a good sample this month but I assume.. thats atleast what i think, I'm drunken right now aswell... it doesnt mean i don't have respect for other guys, i just don't realy care about most... obv traktor/waltiph and angri are pretty good but i don't see them too much, juicy and wadzon are the tough faces i'm facing all the time... billygstar might be pretty good roi wise but as wadzon said it just doesnt mean to much, we could 4 table the **** aswell to get higher roi but whats the point.

notice for myself: don't post when you're drunk ( it gets way to long )
EGO alert lolz

Not being funny or anything. But the only guys you name that you might be better than are traktor and wadz.

You also haven't played JaniOsmo, boooink, macros maybe even brunolf.
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11-08-2013 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
any Russian clown in the bet.
by the way I never no one is offended ,and I don't hurt your
Tip: you more bring me the trouble if you win my money, and this must have at least play
forum hero
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11-08-2013 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wadzon
Well the time in poker $/hour, it is a trifle, then we determine who is the better for example:
who jumps above or faster reads
who is more to eat donuts is also a good indicator
Who said Russians weren't funny. Pretty witty job .
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11-08-2013 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
EGO alert lolz

Not being funny or anything. But the only guys you name that you might be better than are traktor and wadz.

You also haven't played JaniOsmo, boooink, macros maybe even brunolf.
they are all good but dont get in any sample... as I said... they might play other games aswel but if you only count hypers my personal top 3 is 1.wadzon, 2. biood1, 3. juicy.... don't be offended lol thats just some personal guess while I'm drunk... JaniOsmo, boooink, macros, brunolf are all pretty good but i just don't face them a lot as they don't play a lot.
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11-08-2013 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
they are all good but dont get in any sample... as I said... they might play other games aswel but if you only count hypers my personal top 3 is 1.wadzon, 2. biood1, 3. juicy.... don't be offended lol thats just some personal guess while I'm drunk... JaniOsmo, boooink, macros, brunolf are all pretty good but i just don't face them a lot as they don't play a lot.
Your "personal" top 3. Lol.

You're not top 3 in count or profit.

I need to start creating my own leaderboards!!

Last edited by streityboy; 11-08-2013 at 09:28 PM.
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11-08-2013 , 09:33 PM
ffs lol I don't claim to be particularly good at ht's. And I agree the toughest thing about ht's is getting in consistent volume day in day out. Something that wadzon as already said is impressive although he's losing a lot of hourly coz hes obv not profiting as much in these as he should be.

I've never claimed I can or would do that but was just interest in a few weeks bet when booid offered.

seeing as you talking about skill versus volume here's wadzons sc so I guess it's getting the right trade off between playing a winning strategy and getting in as much volume as poss.

Omaha H/L 45,778 $0.05 $18.99 1.8% $2,131 66

Could be wrong but i'm gonna guess that he would get slightly less then 1 million fpps at sn doing this many games. That's 16k in RB.

Now juicy j

Omaha H/L 01/01/2013-09/11/2013 43,030 $0.55 $16.64 4.7% $23,515 70

So i'd say there's quite a bit of extra value there playing the games well.

The way wadzon posted he thinks we all don't know about rakeback
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11-08-2013 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Your "personal" top 3. Lol.

You're not top 3 in count or profit.

I need to start creating my own leaderboards!!
yeah I had a chuckle that he put himself in his 'personal' top 3
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11-08-2013 , 09:40 PM
you have a pretty mediocre profit per game and roi biood

I'll put you in my 'personal' top 30 maybe

Omaha H/L 12,515 $0.26 $9.65 4.2% $3,305 65
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11-08-2013 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
lol...you hurt my feeling so much moron. Good job getting your panties in a bunch though.
I make decent mtt scores coz I am good at all games and grind hard even when running like crap.

funny thing is it was a potential bet between biood and I didn't even mention any Russian clown in the bet.
You're far up your own arse too. Like SilentPurple bad.

You're not good enough to be that arrogant.
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11-08-2013 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
EGO alert lolz

Not being funny or anything. But the only guys you name that you might be better than are traktor and wadz.

You also haven't played JaniOsmo, boooink, macros maybe even brunolf.
I love you thanks for that! not playing much anymore though, got some real job now
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11-09-2013 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy

Not being funny or anything. But the only guys you name that you might be better than are traktor and wadz.
Traktor is one of the best imo but what do i know
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11-09-2013 , 01:31 AM
I know chip ev does not tell the whole story but based on the graphs I have on traktor I find it hard to believe he is good. His style works in 7s but imo 15+ he is a probably a loser long term.

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11-09-2013 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
I know chip ev does not tell the whole story but based on the graphs I have on traktor I find it hard to believe he is good. His style works in 7s but imo 15+ he is a probably a loser long term.
As soon as I hit the submit reply button there was a voice in my head sounding like Louis C K saying If you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't have said anything.

I haven't played a single $30+ SnG so I'll take your word for it plus you're in my 'personal' top 3 hehe.
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11-09-2013 , 03:57 AM
What happened to waterboa? for a while he was no.1
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11-09-2013 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna
What happened to waterboa? for a while he was no.1
Dude. Wtf. Looks like we agree on something. Good call.

Dunno. Not sure whether he starting playing holdem hypers more often or something.....or he could be shooting up somewhere....dude was a sick action junkie....without doubt one of the most aggressive to handle and knew what he was doing IMO most of the time.

In terms of the top 3 who I hate/hated to play against in no particular order....1. Angri 2. Waterboa 3. Whyamimrpink (probably the least well known really good player in hypers. Never really played a huge volume though)

Last edited by streityboy; 11-09-2013 at 04:54 AM.
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