I really think that people are over-estimating the amount that lefties are happy about this. If Cain was a moral crusader of any note, or if this was the general, sure, but neither of those things are true.

Basically, I think because lefties are totally uninvested in this clown one way or another, it's just easier to recognize how ludicrous the whole thing is, from Cain's behavior to the curious defenses of him being made ITT.

It's a hilarious run bad/ play bad combo.

TBH, I'm not really sticking up for anyone with regards to this incident. I just think Sharon Bialek is completely FOS and it makes no sense to me that she would report this, Years later, if Cain did such horrendous things to her.

As far as the lawsuits from the NRA, there could be something to them and there could not be. What I mean is, it's already been noted that at least one of these NRA people filed suit against the next co. they worked just a few years later.

I'm a firm believer in "where's there's smoke there's fire" but I've always been cautious of this in politics.

I would love to see Cain take a polygraph in an attempt to clear this up. I guess I'm just so fed up with the press and their unethical reporting (in general) that I tend to be more vigilant about what I believe/don't believe.

I personally don't really like Cain as a presidential candidate and would love nothing more than to see him step down and get out of the way but from a human interest perspective I'm interested in knowing the truth.

I couldn't agree more with the 2nd part. Problem is , I think most of the defenders itt would be more than quick to assume true allegations of a skank-bag were they lobbed at Obama.

It is curious that nothing was brought up while he was a 100 to 1 longshot, but now that his numbers increased, here comes a parade of ladies.

LOL @ the polygraph test. It is a publicity stunt.

We already know Cain is a liar and incompetent. If there were absolutely nothing to these accusations, he'd have no need to lie about them.

From what I've just read on wikipedia polygraphs aren't that reliable and Cain for sure would test it before volunteer himself to the test so it wouldn't clear up anything. (even if polygraphs were somehow 99.9% accurate that still wouldn't change probability of Cain being guilty at all as long as it's his choice to go to the test)

I don't know why you would say that, I don't think I've ever made a comment that is totally biased towards anyone or party.
My guess is that you're so use to everyone taking a side that you have difficulty understanding a comment that's fairly neutral.

Rasmussen Florida Poll 11/8

30% Cain
24% Romney
19% Gingrich
4% Perry
3% Paul
3% Bachmann
2% Huntsman
1% Santorum

Source

Before this poll, Cain had never led in a Florida poll.

Flak?

More importantly, you're just wrong. Anytime you make public accusations about someone there is a risk that you can put yourself into financial jeopardy. Truth is the defense to a libel claim but you may have to defend yourself in court to get there. it boggles my mind that you think if she's telling the truth the world just magical knows and makes her impervious to legal action. You do realize that you often need a lawyer whether you're innocent or not, right?!?!

Very likely and that is important how again? You realize that most lawyers do some amount of pro bono? And that many high profile issues get a lot of pro bono reps? You're just looking really clueless about the legal world here. (Confession- While I am not a lawyer, my work greatly crosses over and I work with lawyers on a regular basis.)

Or course everyone has biases. They are not all blatantly partisan biases like yours. And the people who are intellectually honest about them would be aware of them and try to negate them. You seem to be indicating that you are aware of them but you don't care. In which case you are being intentionally dishonest... you recognize that you're seeing things skewed and out of whack and don't care.

I admit the joke works better if a swinginglory or one of the mikes makes that post, but I can't wait all day for comedy gold. Sometimes you just ship a bronze and call it a day

My suspicions are someone needed to drag Cain to a sensitivity seminar.

as best I can tell, 2 of the people made their case years ago and were paid to not talk about it. It also appears that some reporter found out about this and reported the story. So they don't need to back anything up really since the matter was settled for them years ago.

Actually you have determined that Cain is a liar and incompetent, as far as we, I'm not so sure.

And perhaps the lie detector statement, from Cain, was a publicity stunt but it has nothing to do with my statement which is I would love for him to take a polygraph.

If Cain can turn the 'you want a job' line into a bj joke, and stick the landing, I will legit vote for him.

LOL, well said

My man is making a leap. I haven't seen him above 1% before.

Neither of these appear to be automatic disqualifiers for the republican primaries.

I can tell by some of your previous posts that you're capable of thinking; based on that I'll just say that's a real convenient way to approach this.

If you're not so sure, you've got some catching up to do.

1. Cain denied the existence of settlements at first. He was forced to admit that there were settlements just hours later when caught in the lie.

2. When he was forced to admit there were settlements, he lied and said that he had just forgotten about them but now he remembers. We know this was also a lie because, the Politico journalist who broke the story told the Cain campaign about the story he was going to break more than a week in advance of breaking the story.

These are the facts, and they are undisputed.

YOU'RE A LOUSY SOFTBALL PLAYER, JACK!

I posted a link in the DS Cain thread to Bill Kurtis speaking of the blonde lady on TV yesterday.

I'm expecting a big uptick in Newts numbers that come out next week. I've been touting him when he was at 4%, so I'm feeling brilliant like Newt!

Politico alleged that they gave Cain a week or more to respond.
It's not inconceivable that Cain didn't know about the settlements.

Totally irrelevant to whether or not these women are victims of sexual harassment.

It would be fun to see if the Cain defenders are birthers. or if they're in the Ground Zero mosque thread and give your average Muslim the benefit of the doubt or assume they're all enemies of america.