She said she is not getting paid for any interviews. She is not doing this for the money.

Seems like the sexual harassment ruined her life, shame on Cain.

Looks better that way......

Right.... she's not..... maybe Gloria is. Maybe a book deal. Maybe Vernon Jordan gives her a job like he did for the doe eyed fatty.And I always assume the word of someone with 2 bankruptcies, 2 bastard children and default 4 figure judgements against is 100%. Every single time.

That's always my default position.

It certainly could be true, though......

Swinging,
The question that matters is, would you have this same kind of skepticism if the accusations were against someone whose politics you hated?

And so the character assassination begins.

That would imply that the skanky deadbeat baby momma revelations are false, which seems unlikely. This also makes one wonder what really happened in that car.

Say she is a skanky, deadbeat baby momma. Does that mean she can never be sexually harassed?

Lol, spade, classic character assassination response.
Edit, and classy

The point is those things can all be true. They probably are. But it doesnt make Cain molesting her in the car untrue.

Lolz...you can pretty much guess which posters are going to go down that road. I expect a nickvanexcel account soon enough.

I agree, but those things are now an important part of the discussion, not just "character assasination." Surely she expected it all to come out. For what it's worth, my personal opinion so far is a better than 50% chance that Cain did pretty much what she said. But her character matters a lot, and not just for credibility.

She sounds like a woman struggling to survive in spite of the men around her abusing and taking advantage of her.

I don't see how anything other than her credibility is relevant to anything at all.

She's credible but a terrible person so its no big deal that Cain did what he's alleged to have done?

Yeah, if her character matters, but not for credibility, then for what?

I suppose it does just boil down to credibility.

More importantly who is so scared of Cain that these allegations just keep pouring out? The timing is so suspect (leading the polls)

From a political stand point I think it's a plus for the R's that he withdraws but from a human stand point I'm starting to feel for Cain.

I know I'm being overly optimistic but it would be awesome if Cain somehow agreed to "open the books" on this and get it cleared up one way or the other. (as much as humanly possible)

Edit
I didn't read the last few pages so this may have been mentioned.
In the interview I saw this morning she said she wasn't sure if she would vote for Cain or not if he apologized.

Yup.... credibility. You know the old NVG cry.... pics or it didn't happen! Well how about this picture taken a month ago at a Tea Party rallye:

http://www.suntimes.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=oF_hp wo_GrdwZZ$NCcbn0s$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYuZ_jU7giMLfg3 _qgLozUaMWCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4 uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_C ryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg

This is Cain and his supposed accuser posing for the cameras like they are old college chums.

If you had been sexually assaulted by Cain, do you ever allow him to touch you ever again in any way?????

Phil and the rest of the Cain is a serial sexual assaulter crowd please explain this photo taken a month ago. Ockham's Razor is screaming set-up/shake down.

And also plz explain why she needs Allred if she isn't looking to cash in? Also, why the victory tour of the morning shows?

But , it is true.... a picture is better than 10,000 words!

http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/...month-ago.html

Wow, this completely contradicts what she said this morning about him basically seeing her in the crowd at that rally and exchanging glances.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? If you are asking if I laughed and hoped the Paula Jones stuff was true.... certainly. But I wasn't convinced it was true until she described the listing to the port beam of his johnson.

Had he been ****ing Sharon Stone at the Watergate hotel I would have given him 5 stars, but the fact he was using the fat 21 yr old for a humidor skeeved the **** out of me.

Bottom line, I like real evidence.

Getting back to Cain, he's a few years older than me and grew up in the Jim Crow south where he must have been told about a million times by his daddy, stay away from white girls 'cause they string you up from the nearest tree around here for looking at one sideways.

The notion that as an adult he has morphed into some sort of serial abuser of white women jamming his hand up their collective crotches and yanking their heads to his crotch needs to be proven pretty strongly to me.

And , by the way, I am not closed to the notion he is lying.... I just need some real substantiation to lean that way.

That's a criminal standard and nothing we should be judging candidates by...especially primary candidates. I don't think we really have to start on the "he's probably guilty" or "he's probably innocent" side of the ledger. With stuff like this it's more like go by gut feel initially and then keep an open mind to changing your mind if the evidence is contrary to that.

The answer is pretty obviously yes.

swingin,

photoshop obv. Just like it's obv that all women report attempts at/actual assault.

It is tough to keep your statements consistent when they are lies......

To quote the immortal words spoken by Dennis Hopper to Christopher Walken in True Romance...." If that's a fact..... tell me..... am I lying?"

3:46 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XkO...eature=related

LKJ,

Look , I don't know what to tell you. Cain is not my first choice. I've said many time I believe Mitch Daniels is the guy with the best qualifications to run the country today. Of the guys currently available , although he is a scurrilous fellow in his personal relationships Newt would be my choice.

That being said, I'm not going to stand idly by while Cain gets lynched by innuendo. Again, what is the evidence against him:

There is anonymous #1 who accepted money to leave Cain's company. She doesn't say what happened. She will not submit to any examination of any sort.

There are anonymous # 2 and 3 who we know less facts about, but neither of these will submit to examination nor be specific on the record about anything.

Then there is #4 who can't seem to keep a job, has filed for bankruptcy twice, has two kids and is financially busto that makes serious claims of sexual assault and then poses with her attacker all chummy chummy a month ago. How does than make any sense to anyone? She then hires a renowned lefty ambulance chaser and goes public.

This Cain fellow is perceived pretty dangerous to something. My mind is open, but I'd like to see something of substance.

Of an uppity black man, who has the temerity to walk off the dem plantation, yes....