The guy was trying to pretend he was gay in the context of a conversation about how Muslims felt about gay people. Disproving his (obviously false even before the research) claim isn't exactly digging up unrelated dirt.

Serious M night style twists itt. (Ie forced, predictable and largely irrelevant.)

Was that ever the question?

Let's also not pretend like people tangented away from all of too eazy's EXCELLENT and COGENT and RELEVANT posts by bringing up how shameless of a liar he is.

He brought his homosexuality up as a precursor for offering prop bets about Qu'Ran quoting and accusing everyone of being a homophobe, the thread was about the biker protest at a mosque.

Like, this is an incredible fairy tale to spin that we're talking about posts that were made ****ing yesterday.

Yes. From me, that's always been the question.

No other religion gets the protection from accusations of being at best, traditionalist and socially conservative and at worst, homophobic and sexist the way that Islam does.

If we were talking about Christianity, the answers that most posters here would give would be "lol ldo" or perhaps "yeah, if you follow the books" if they were in a generous mood.

With Islam, the response is quite different; they either dodge the question, criticise the asking of the question, accuse (or even just plainly assume) that the asker of the question has an ulterior motive, or (most commonly) take every pain to overemphasise the point that whilst Islam miiiight maaaaybe have some homophobic passages in the Qu'ran (as if that matters because of course, no Muslim follows the word of the Qu'ran right?), Christianity is just as bad and this and that and the other is worse and so on and so forth.

Christianity and Islam really are remarkably similar, and that's the point I'm making.

Islam is being given special treatment from the political left, not because the political left approve of anything it says, but because its followers (in the West) are predominantly non-white.

Can you quote someone who is giving Islam special treatment? Because in this thread, it has appeared that Islam has received only extra criticism compared to Christianity, not extra apologetics.

Did you get lost on your way to like, a comparative theology class or something? And stumble into this thread?


Oh, for sure, man.

For the record, if there's a Christian church that's being intimidated by gun-toting biker dip****s, I'm officially against that, too.

Its funny how the apologists are making sure they include the Christians. Kind of.

You mean the bigot apologist like yourself?

I'm not a bigot. I love Muslims as much as I love catholics or Mormons. I can just see past nonsense arguments.

Keep telling yourself you're not a bigot. I'm sure it's convenient for you to do so after making quite a few bigoted posts in these forums.

So far adios is the only person who has made a fair argument.

I dont have to tell myself anything, I know it. I have friends of every stripe and I'm proud of it. What you think of me means absolutely nothing in any significant sense except for your own feelings of self importance on this internet forum.

Actually, the question being asked, or which should be asked, and was insinuated by a real classy poster and bigot in the title of the thread he created, is:

Should we expect -peaceful- Muslims to be triggered and become murderers because of what we in western civilization consider to be a non-crime (drawing pictures) ?

If Yes: We have a major societal problem (unlike the others, one which infiltrates our society ideologically and then demands we change our way of life to accommodate their own which is contrary to ours, utilizing liberal values to do so and then destroying those values in the process), and we might want to look at Islam as being at the core of that problem, or one of the contributing factors at the very least considering the amount of conflicts on the planet today where Islam / Islamist causes and groups are a primary agitators (ISIS, Boko Haram, Hamas, Taliban, Al-Qaeda, etc).

If No: Then the men who attempted to massacre a picture drawing contest were already would-be murderers (not peaceful, obviously) and would have found other venues / reasons to murder in the name of their religion, and trying to appease them in any way would likely encourage more men of similar beliefs to to appear, and to seek out more demands, not less - especially if its as easy as saying "this offends me and you are racist now"- a cry which gives an almost batman-signal to the Social Justice Warriors to take up their cause.


So... "You'll never guess what happens next!" posters, can we guess what will happen the next time people offend by drawing the image of a long dead warlord who is believed to be a pious and ideal man despite the rapes, murders, tortures, and pillaging done by him and in his name?


Also, Wil is not a bigot.

Could you rephrase that into English?

I see by the opening comments no one here had an issue with law breakers getting shot by the cops. No one even questioned if it was a legit shooting. Amazing. Why so much trust for the cops now? Not that I agree with the protesters but I guess if you can only protest with out getting shot if the cool kids like your message. /facetiousness

Stop needing it spoon fed for you, learn to comprehend and draw conclusions or learn to have some depth to your thinking instead of your typical "its racist, its racist".

I wonder how the oblivious ostriches here who earlier were adamant that Islamic terrorism is hyperbolic Western propaganda feel about the person in Boston who had plans to kill Pam Geller or a random cop.

16000 homicides a year in the US. I think the propoganda about a tiny fraction of a percent of homicides is hyperbolic.

I'm simply pointing out a blatant and painfully obvious contradiction between how some here were saying that this kind of stuff is nothing to worry about, when in fact it clearly is. Sure the number of annual homicides is also something to worry about, as is teenage pregnancy and the national debt, to name some other soirces of concern. But these have no relevance at all to the concern we should have for Islamic terrorism. It exists, period, and ignoring it certainly won't make.it disappear.

Islamic terrorism is something to worry about for geopolitical reasons and for the safety of people in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc, but not for your personal safety in the US.

If you actually worry about that, then you're nuts.

I can honestly say I have no fear of Islamic terrorism. It's a joke.

Exactly. If you live in America your chance of being killed by an Islamic terrorist is as close to zero as makes no difference. Even if you are a troll like Geller your chance is miniscule though will be higher. If you spend more than 5 seconds a year thinking/worrying about it you are worrying disproportionately and should spend more time worrying about asteroid strikes or lightning bolts.

Should I be alarmed about the possibility of asteroid strikes? Because it's real, and ignoring it won't make it disappear.