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09-22-2014 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
With weapons that would be 40, 50, 60, and even 70 years old in 2040.


The only reason why warfare is conventional is due to the nuclear deterrent against everybody.
This isnt like smartphones where there are new higher resolution displays every year. The thing flies into space, orbits for a while, reenters the atmosphere, splits into dozens of bomblets and then just destroys a huge area. Or is dropped from a stealth plane and does the same thing. A 40 year old nuke will be just as functional in 30 years as a ten year old nuke is today. Once you cross the threshold of turning the entire planet into a nuclear wasteland many times over with unstoppable weaponry you dont need to keep shovelling money into developing harder better faster stronger.

And yeah, as I said America could get rid of 90%+ of its nuclear armaments and be an effective deterrent against everybody. It has a ****ing ridiculous amount of nuclear weapons of various types.
09-22-2014 , 08:51 PM
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A 40 year old nuke will be just as functional in 30 years as a ten year old nuke is today
lolol
09-22-2014 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
an hour drive requires an overnight? Seems like she just wanted to give a pill and not do it in person.
You are allowed to not defend the terrible consequences of Republican legislation every single time. Maybe one time actually act like the libertarian you claim to be?
09-22-2014 , 08:54 PM
Am I defending the policy or pointing out obvious spin?
09-22-2014 , 08:55 PM
I feel safe assuming that ikestoys opposes this woman's arrest, but a liberal posted it so he has to argue about something. I assume pvn will be by any moment to rebuke me for pointing this out.
09-22-2014 , 08:57 PM
Whatever goofy, keep posting nyt articles without thinking. I didn't go hard at you, didn't argue about the policy, just said the woman was most likely not telling the truth. And then you get super mad. Standard.
09-22-2014 , 08:59 PM
Assumption confirmed.
09-22-2014 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Assumption confirmed.
The irony man.... it's just amazing.
09-22-2014 , 09:02 PM
I sure hope the US sells off some of their old nukes. Christmas is just around the corner.
09-22-2014 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Whatever goofy, keep posting nyt articles without thinking. I didn't go hard at you, didn't argue about the policy, just said the woman was most likely not telling the truth. And then you get super mad. Standard.
What do you think she's not telling the truth about? Maybe you missed the part about the 24-hour waiting period, which means they would need either 2 separate trips or an overnight stay. Which is what she said.
09-22-2014 , 09:15 PM
It doesn't say an hour drive requires an overnight stay. Ironic that ikes is the one talking about people not reading.
09-22-2014 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
What do you think she's not telling the truth about? Maybe you missed the part about the 24-hour waiting period, which means they would need either 2 separate trips or an overnight stay. Which is what she said.
I think her main motivation was to simply have it done privately, which is entirely understandable.
09-22-2014 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The irony man.... it's just amazing.
Oh yes. Yes, it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
Whatever goofy, keep posting nyt articles without thinking. I didn't go hard at you, didn't argue about the policy, just said the woman was most likely not telling the truth. And then you get super mad. Standard.
See, when I first read and responded to this post, it had but one sentence (the first). ikes apparently ragetilt-responded to my post with one sentence, read it over, and decided it wasn't enough and needed more #SHOTZ added. That he would edit a post to append accusations of anger because he was too mad to read it over properly before furiously hitting "post reply" is just amazing.

ikes, everyone.
09-22-2014 , 09:21 PM
I edited to explain further, that is some hilarious stretching though. ZOMG HE ADDED I HAVE NO ARGUMENT NOW I CAN CLAIM HEEEEMAAAD

Or something. Goofy, everyone.
09-22-2014 , 09:55 PM
Good old libertarians, you know, defending enormous military budgets and complaining about the pervasive pro-choice bias in the mainstream media. Rand 2016!
09-22-2014 , 09:59 PM
The Gary Hart article mentioned Bob Kerrey's potential Vietnam atrocity, which led me to this: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/25/ma...pagewanted=all

Ugh. No more unnecessary wars please.
09-22-2014 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Good old libertarians, you know, defending enormous military budgets and complaining about the pervasive pro-choice bias in the mainstream media. Rand 2016!
Fly you've devolved to lying again.
09-22-2014 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
epic Miss America take down by Oliver last night

Fantastic.

I also enjoyed the Gary Hart article, despite the fact I ultimately found it depressing.
09-22-2014 , 10:28 PM
Grunch: Philllllllllllllllllllll itt.
09-22-2014 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
More legal drama from the heart of Pennsyltucky: A Mother in Jail for Helping Her Daughter Have an Abortion



Cliffs: she then ordered RU-486 online and is now in jail after being charged with (and pleading guilty to) a felony, offering medical consultation about abortion without a medical license.

When I was in undergrad I played in a home poker game in a barn with 20-30 mind-blowingly ******ed rednecks in Washingtonville. Man, that place, holy ****. I was pleasantly surprised the article didn't end with the judge ordering her to be stoned to death.
09-22-2014 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
This isnt like smartphones where there are new higher resolution displays every year. The thing flies into space, orbits for a while, reenters the atmosphere, splits into dozens of bomblets and then just destroys a huge area. Or is dropped from a stealth plane and does the same thing. A 40 year old nuke will be just as functional in 30 years as a ten year old nuke is today. Once you cross the threshold of turning the entire planet into a nuclear wasteland many times over with unstoppable weaponry you dont need to keep shovelling money into developing harder better faster stronger.

And yeah, as I said America could get rid of 90%+ of its nuclear armaments and be an effective deterrent against everybody. It has a ****ing ridiculous amount of nuclear weapons of various types.
So is this sarcastic or is it the greatest bit of phillsplaining in forum history?
09-23-2014 , 01:46 AM
This episode of "This American Life" has a number of angles relevant to common Politics discussions, e.g. tyranny of the majority, decentralised democracy and accusations of bigotry, even a bit of UNIONS.

Cliffs: NY State school district contains a large number of Hasidic Jews, whose children do not attend pubic schools, instead attending private Jewish schools (yeshivas). For years, there's an unwritten deal that district won't investigate the yeshivas to see if they teach the proper curriculum, as well as give them some money for buses and things, so long as the Hasids didn't vote down the school budget.

But then a row arose over Hasid special ed kids, who would only get government funding if they attended a public school due to federal education regulations. Out of their annoyance, the Hasids organise to turn out en masse and bloc vote Hasidic candidates onto the school board. They promptly make significant cuts to the public school budget, and hire an expensive new lawyer to help close public schools, which are then sold to become yeshivas.

Lots of anger follows - public school families protest, the lawyers for the Hasidics yell a lot, including one particularly profanity-laden verbal assault, and there are instances of anti-Semitic behaviour. The Hasids then go on to accuse people disagreeing with them as being anti-Semitic, launching attack ads that reference Nazi Germany and saying that criticisms on them are based on old anti-Semitic tropes. As of today, they still hold power in the district.
09-23-2014 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by champstark
epic Miss America take down by Oliver last night

Watching last night's episode right now. Also a really good segment about how the embargo against Cuba needs to go, which is sadly not on Youtube. Cliffs are...
- last week Obama renewed the embargo for one more year (who knew it had to be renewed every year??)
- Cuba is currently the only country on the list of countries embargoed by the Trading With The Enemy Act of 1917, after GWB removed mother****ing North Korea from it in 2008
- given that we trade with every other country in the world, many of whom have similarly oppressive human rights records (e.g. Saudi Arabia), it's difficult to make arguments about why we should still be singling out Cuba
- clip of Obama from 2004 talking about how it's time to lift the embargo
09-23-2014 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
This isnt like smartphones where there are new higher resolution displays every year. The thing flies into space, orbits for a while, reenters the atmosphere, splits into dozens of bomblets and then just destroys a huge area. Or is dropped from a stealth plane and does the same thing.A 40 year old nuke will be just as functional in 30 years as a ten year old nuke is today. Once you cross the threshold of turning the entire planet into a nuclear wasteland many times over with unstoppable weaponry you dont need to keep shovelling money into developing harder better faster stronger.

And yeah, as I said America could get rid of 90%+ of its nuclear armaments and be an effective deterrent against everybody. It has a ****ing ridiculous amount of nuclear weapons of various types.
Honestly, that all sounds a lot like Ike's posts. Probably get more bang for the buck by spending a trillion over the next 30 years upgrading Ike's posts and dropping them on Chinese and Russian message boards. God knows his posts are a surefire deterrent to Truth and Common Sense. "U MAD, Bro" takes on a whole new meaning: Mutually Assured Drivel.

P.S. thx for telling me what OF means. Sorry that thread got locked. UK/Euro poli is a whole different ballgame imo and informative for a Yank. Strange how parties can reform and come out of nowhere. A bit scary and harry iyam, parliamentary style, just seems too prone to hijacking, drastic and quick change for me. Just ask Adolph. I've thought that for a long time. Not to go Godwin, but that's the feeling I got from Salmond: like he was just taking over Scotland in one fell swoop.

And that nuke program, besides keeping them shiny and new, it provides a lot of jobs, including a ton of construction jobs, and with Putin being a tool, it's probably not a horrible waste of money. And plus we will need something to sell on Alibaba once that schoolteacher takes over the entire world economy.

But, hey, I just remembered that we can build the backbone of that evacuated tube train for less than a trillion, NY to London, via Canada and China in 3.5 hrs or something. Prolly be able to put solar panels on the moon for that much money too, so yeah, maybe it is a waste of money. Blame it on Putin. And the schoolteacher.
09-23-2014 , 09:13 AM
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it's what they do when they get bored of sending email for help w/ bank deposits...

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Originally Posted by $pike's sick ass friends@ 4chan
http://www.nairaland.com/search?q=eb...&search=Search

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