Forget this specific case.

One person gets in a bar fight, punches someone, they fall, hit their head and die.

Other person punches his 3yo hard and square in the face, knocking her out, but no measurable permanent effect.

Who is the worse person?

errrrr that's decidedly not a comparison to the ray lewis case. They brought knives man and fought well outside the bar.

Well I guess if we're changing it to hitting a man v. a child with differing outcomes the opinion could change.

In the case of stabbing someone to death v. slapping, or even punching, a wife what would you say?

Stabbing someone to death out of the blue is really really really bad. Doing it during a robbery is really really really bad.

Doing it to someone who broke a bottle over your or your friend's head? It's not that it's not bad, but it's not the same thing.

Again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be a crime. But, there are decent people who are in or have been in prison who did something bad and wreckless, especially when drinking.

Just flat out decking a woman and dragging her around? **** that guy.

What if he was drunk and just doing something wreckless?

It depends on a lot of things. Some people flat out deserve to be stabbed to death.

If Justin Bieber marries Rhonda Roussey and slaps her, she may end up deserving some jail time.

I need pvn in here with some gifs ASAP

It's a crime. Guy does his time. Feels crappy about it. I interview him for a job. I might hire him. He might not be a bad person. (I use this example because it is somewhat close to reality for me - though no one died. )

Guy who beats his wife and children regularly? He might do less time, but I'm not going to associate with him.

Can you clarify, did you stab someone or hit your wife? Or do you mean not you?

Something like 60% of the books sold at Amazon are titles that aren't even available in the largest Barnes and Noble locations.

Not me.

Just got my yearly federally required reminder that federal financial aid is contingent on not having any arrests for drug possession. No mention of any other crime, but it is automatically stopped for any drugs. Between this and the way the NFL handles things, it really is ****ing sad. The majority of people do not give one single ****, this **** needs to change.

Need to drug test all federal student loan recipients.

It's so rarely worth it to play the "who is worse in two horrible situations" game.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/fea...redirect=false

Horrible stuff. Even allowing religious exemptions to vaccine requirements is dicey. What sort of madness leads to a "personal belief" exemption?

LOL. That's incredible.

Probably $$$. If your school doesn't allow for their personal beliefs, they'll go to the next uber-exclusive private school that accepts their bat**** loony dollars.

The kid of one of my wife's friends from grad school got whooping cough.

I assume there's a California law that requires schoolchildren to be vaccinated, and that's what the crazy people exceptions apply to.

Ah. I assumed whatever law/regulations only apply to public schools and the exemption is for individual schools' rules. Using teh googles though you appear to be correct.

From AB 2109, passed in 2012 (took effect Jan. 1 of this year) which appears like it should make it harder for people to acquire the personal belief exemption:

Cliffs: before you could just send a letter saying "I don't believe in immunization", now you have to provide a form signed by a doctor saying "hey, I warned these idiots they should get their kids immunized and they didn't listen".

On the subject of Edward Snowden Hurting Our Country By Giving Information To The Terrorists and all the ways the government tried to tell you he was evil:

New report says there's no evidence the Snowden leaks made Al Qaeda change their tactics

Some examples of the lies:

What's a little white lie when LIVES ARE AT STAKE?

Why do you hate America so much?

Yeah, I've come around to the AsianNit style of thinking. Trying to relax our drug war **** by telling white and/or rich people that the system ****s over poor and/or minorities isn't going to work.

Let's start piss testing people before each distribution of loan money. Stopping and frisking black people in NYC didn't turn up that much in terms of guns or drugs, but let's toss some drawers at the dorms at NYU. I bet we'll find a joint or three. "Hey, ma, Dad, so my life is ruined because I had a trafficking weight of MDMA hidden in a sock, I'll be getting out of prison in 8-10 years, ok?"

Joe Mande's bit on Cafe Gratitude(linked in that Atlantic article) is amazing:
https://soundcloud.com/joemande/cafe-gratitude

Have a kid on my case load whose parents believe vaccines are what caused their kid to get autism. Like, they're 100% sold on mercury and other metals in vaccines being at harmful levels. They even sport the bumper stickers.

Learned today that the onset of their paranoia was some quack doctor. Apparently when their son was 2 years old he had an eye condition that severely impacted his ability to see. Dr. Quack prescribed a med and the kid's eye problem was cured. The parents now believed this doc was a miracle worker, and unfortunately she was anti vaccines. Mix in some confirmation bias, and 12 years later you've got hardcore vaccine truthers.