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05-22-2012 , 02:42 PM

#576

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

My trainer is pretty excited about the "self-published" Harvard pamphlet put out by Obama showing he was born in Kenya. Of course me not knowing the details is because the media is scared to touch it.

Also we almost had a little moment where he was complaining about some private insurer refusing to cover him until he'd been off vicodin (for a back problem) for 6 months. I said yeah that's our screwed up health care system, to which he agreed. Keep in mind he's from Canada and thinks their health care system is great. I scanned his eyes looking for a magic connection to happen there. But sadly the power of Obama hatred is far too great.

Your trainer doesn't seem to fit the strong Republican profile. Is it just Obama he doesn't like? What does he think about Jerry Brown or other Dems? Maybe the question is he just a racist?

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05-22-2012 , 02:51 PM

#577

EricLindros

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It reads: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus - 18:22.

I guess he forgot about Leviticus 19:28: Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord

Unrelated bonus "well, it wasn't illegal" link: http://calorielab.com/news/2012/05/1...t-not-illegal/ (NSFW?)

05-22-2012 , 02:54 PM

#578

DblBarrelJ

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I'd like a comment from Fly on suzzers trainer, who clearly just hates black people.

05-22-2012 , 02:56 PM

#579

DblBarrelJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

More butter, fewer guns, imo.

Freedom hatin lefty mods always tryin to take our gunz IMO

05-22-2012 , 02:59 PM

#580

2/325Falcon

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I can't even troll that Trayvon thread. Lock it up.

05-22-2012 , 03:06 PM

#581

JayTeeMe

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How long has BigDaddy been absentee king?

05-22-2012 , 03:07 PM

#582

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Every time I pop back into that thread I see 3 more pages of circular highly-speculative arguments on the minutiae of a physical confrontation. I don't get it.

Yeah, the thread is totally unreadable.

05-22-2012 , 03:13 PM

#583

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

How long has BigDaddy been absentee king?

Yeah, this. I should get my purple back.

05-22-2012 , 03:16 PM

#584

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashington

I saw this as well. But is this really a case of "embracing the broken window fallacy?" From what I understand of it, and admittedly my understanding is limited, the broken window fallacy factors in both the destruction AND the money spent to recover from the destruction. Here Krugman appears to be talking about growth over a given time period and attributing that growth strictly to the spending on recovery. I don't see an argument in favor of tsunamis as tools of economic recovery here.

Well, yeah, that's sort of the escape hatch, isn't it? It's like Krugman's special variation of the cavuto question mark.

The point is that he's making the same mistake - he's cherry picking data. In the broken window fallacy, the activity looks like a net positive if you only examine what happens AFTER the window is broken. And that's exactly what Krugman is doing here. The data doesn't show that things are actually better for actual, real people in Japan, it just shows some statistic that looks good on a graph (though I'm sure things ARE better for certain people who own like construction companies or whatever).

05-22-2012 , 03:17 PM

#585

NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

hay guize

remember back when some guy posed as krugman on G+ and made it look like he was embracing the broken window fallacy?

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ng-and-growth/

LOL Krugtard

05-22-2012 , 03:20 PM

#586

NeBlis

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Originally Posted by Ashington

Since the collapse was caused by government tossing rocks at the economy in the fist place...you do the math.

05-22-2012 , 03:26 PM

#587

NeBlis

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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon

I can't even troll that Trayvon thread. Lock it up.

tread is self-trolling, your services are not needed

05-22-2012 , 03:37 PM

#588

NeBlis

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can we start getting warnings and then bans for people who sign their posts? We have avatars and screen names for a reason.

05-22-2012 , 03:48 PM

#589

JayTeeMe

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Toughen up, buttercup.

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05-22-2012 , 03:51 PM

#590

DblBarrelJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon

I can't even troll that Trayvon thread. Lock it up.

This is a fail on your part, not the thread.

I certainly have no difficulty in trolling it. Your problem may be subtlety. It's like pro wrestling. To really troll that thread well you must create a character that has some resemblance to your real personality and stay in character.

It must be subtle. You can't just come in and go "Zimmerman must die!" or "Trayvon deserved it!".

Gotta start small and build IMO

05-22-2012 , 03:53 PM

#591

DblBarrelJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NeBlis

can we start getting warnings and then bans for people who sign their posts? We have avatars and screen names for a reason.

WTF is your problem?

~DBJ

Last edited by DblBarrelJ; 05-22-2012 at 03:54 PM. Reason: Damn slow ponied by JTM

05-22-2012 , 03:57 PM

#592

ikestoys

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The smartest thing dems have done in several years was to require 20m in ad spending in an election year to support Obamacare. Wp Wp.

05-22-2012 , 03:58 PM

#593

Omar Comin

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What's wrong Neblis?

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05-22-2012 , 04:07 PM

#594

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Originally Posted by pvn

I get what you're saying, but the entire point of the broken window parable (from which the fallacy is taken) is the notion that someone is asserting that bad stuff happening is really good if you only ignore the ancillary bad stuff. I don't see Krugman doing that here.

He may be cherry picking data, I'll certainly concede that possibility, but he's not arguing in favor of natural disaster as a growth trigger. Cherry picking data does not necessarily = embracing broken window fallacy or any other logical fallacy for that matter.

05-22-2012 , 04:08 PM

#595

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Originally Posted by NeBlis

can we start getting warnings and then bans for people who sign their posts? We have avatars and screen names for a reason.

Haha there's a whole ATF thread on this topic. I hate sigs too.

-Solidarity

05-22-2012 , 04:09 PM

#596

Paul McSwizzle

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that trayvon thread has been unreadable since day 1, imo. it reached critical mass pretty quickly, as these things tend to do.

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05-22-2012 , 04:09 PM

#597

Namath12

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Originally Posted by NeBlis

Since the collapse was caused by government tossing rocks at the economy in the fist place...you do the math.

The earthquake and ensuing tsunami were caused by the Japanese government throwing rocks at stuff?

05-22-2012 , 04:17 PM

#598

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The Trayvon thread is mostly waiting on the release of Zimmerman's statements and text messages, but it manages to find itself in the perfect Venn diagram of things that outrage people and levels of info that allow a wide range of theories that arent even wrong.

Phill