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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-13-2017 , 02:42 PM
Trump wants to grab Brigitte Macron by the pussy.
07-13-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
It's a felony to lie or omit on that form.

lol at 100 names. Either some serious ****ing oversight or they're just trying to obfuscate some important name(s). Where's Waldo?!
Like the Patriots putting 3/4s of their roster on the injury report every week.
07-13-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
Like the Patriots putting 3/4s of their roster on the injury report every week.
I made a point like this in a Facebook argument last week. Trump supporters are basically like Patriots fans. They've heard the facts regarding their team's cheating and they either don't care, because they won, or they simply don't want to hear it, also because they won.

I think part of the problem is that the remedies have been kind of ambiguous. Had the Patriots not just been fined/suspended but rather had their championships stripped like, say, Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson, then even their fans would have been able to reluctantly admit that there was something there. But because the penalties were lesser it's easy for the die hards to pretend like there is some doubt surrounding the whole thing.

Which is, I feel, one of the reasons why the Trump/Russia thing needs even more smoking guns than most other scandals. As long as there is any room to weasel out of direct evidence of guilt, his people are going to take it. And of course so is he.
07-13-2017 , 03:22 PM
Maybe the compromise between Chippa and DVaut is too get more sources and only print the takes that 3-4 sources agree with. Your print less juicy stuff, but the stories are more likely to be accurate. Maybe use anonymous quotes from one source that illustrate one of these more robust takes.
07-13-2017 , 03:30 PM
wall must be see through so the bags of drugs thrown over the wall won't injure Americans on the other side guarding the wall by hitting them in the head. GENIUS!!!

Also, constructing the wall out of solar panels thus inflating the cost 100X+fold, BRILLIANT!

Last edited by bigt2k4; 07-13-2017 at 03:45 PM.
07-13-2017 , 03:40 PM
Why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box material???????
07-13-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
wall must be see through so the bags of drugs thrown over the wall won't injure Americans on the other side guarding the wall by hitting them in the head. GENIUS!!!

Also, constructing the wall out of solar panels thus inflating the cost 100+fold, BRILLIANT!
Well Mexico is paying for the wall so I see no need to concern ourselves with cost, do you?
07-13-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Maybe the compromise between Chippa and DVaut is too get more sources and only print the takes that 3-4 sources agree with. Your print less juicy stuff, but the stories are more likely to be accurate. Maybe use anonymous quotes from one source that illustrate one of these more robust takes.
Meh. What happens when the competition has the same story you have but they went with it having only one source while you waited to have two or three?

Here's the thing. Most of us have experienced a situation where your sister steals a cookie but you get accused of it. Your mom sits you in a corner and you cry out "THAT'S NOT TRUE"! And you cry. You cry harder than you've ever cried before. This is your first lesson in injustice. It shapes your respect for the truth. And right-minded good journalists carry that respect with them throughout their careers. They seek the truth, and they do the very best they can to report the truth with or without the use of confidential sources. And it hurts when people refuse to accept that and assign sinister motivations.
07-13-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic


https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/statu...93489349550080

Spoiler:
07-13-2017 , 04:23 PM
Mueller is adding a Hillary Clinton email person onto his team. Don't ask.
07-13-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12


https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/statu...93489349550080

Spoiler:
I just saw this interview. Gorka also said that we should let Russia get away with basically anything because they have lots of nuclear weapons. Of course he also deflected to Obama for being weak with Russia while Donald Trump has been nothing but strong on them. Tapper asked how specifically and Gorka came back saying Trump FIRMLY asked 2x if Putin interfered in our elections, but once Putin said no there's nothing else that can be done but to move on.

Sorry, I mean DOCTOR Gorka.
07-13-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Mueller is adding a Hillary Clinton email person onto his team. Don't ask.
wat? like one of the investigators or that dude who handled her IT?
07-13-2017 , 04:37 PM
he said don't ask
07-13-2017 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
wat? like one of the investigators or that dude who handled her IT?
A former prosecutor from the email investigation is what I think I heard on CNN. Not sure if that means pro or anti Trump.
07-13-2017 , 04:40 PM
donald innocently took notice of france's first lady's physique because he himself has been an avid bodybuilder for many years, so he's very perceptive of these types of things.


i should also mention that the president has an online PhD in great tits, in case he says anything else like that today
07-13-2017 , 04:45 PM
I don't know French for "Do u even lift br0" but I bet Trump does
07-13-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
I made a point like this in a Facebook argument last week. Trump supporters are basically like Patriots fans. They've heard the facts regarding their team's cheating and they either don't care, because they won, or they simply don't want to hear it, also because they won.

I think part of the problem is that the remedies have been kind of ambiguous. Had the Patriots not just been fined/suspended but rather had their championships stripped like, say, Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson, then even their fans would have been able to reluctantly admit that there was something there. But because the penalties were lesser it's easy for the die hards to pretend like there is some doubt surrounding the whole thing.

Which is, I feel, one of the reasons why the Trump/Russia thing needs even more smoking guns than most other scandals. As long as there is any room to weasel out of direct evidence of guilt, his people are going to take it. And of course so is he.
The only correction I would make to this post is that it is not so much that they are pretending there is "some doubt" but rather they are pretending it is "no big deal". Trump is in big trouble regarding Russia, if and only if it can be shown that his campaigns's involvement with them almost certainly included their knowledge or strong suspicion that they were being helped by illegal hacking.
07-13-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
A former prosecutor from the email investigation is what I think I heard on CNN. Not sure if that means pro or anti Trump.
hillary was never charged with any email crimes so clearly he's a hillary shill who has donated thousands of dollars to democrats
07-13-2017 , 04:53 PM
Please don't bring the Patriots fans in here
07-13-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
wall must be see through so the bags of drugs thrown over the wall won't injure Americans on the other side guarding the wall by hitting them in the head. GENIUS!!!

Also, constructing the wall out of solar panels thus inflating the cost 100X+fold, BRILLIANT!
Faced with the impracticality of their dumbass promises, we're about 6 months to 1 year away from the deplorable wing of the GOP (so most of them) trying to justify their reelection campaign on the wall issue during the midterms and later to the Trump reelection campaign.

They are going to argue two preposterous things that are self evidently contradictory but that hits home with their base perfectly. Prepare yourselves:

1) the Democrats are huge, historic obstructionists despite the fact the GOP will probably never bother with even cursory details for how to pay for the wall or how they would get the votes for it; there may never even be a bill. But they will scream and shout the dishonest media, Democrats, Soros and Hillary Clinton obstructed them and halted progress despite never even trying.
2) they will also, at the same time try to credibly argue the wall is simply metaphysical and was inside of us all along. By electing alpha strongman American Donald Trump and his Make America Great Again priorities, and by continuing to elect Republicans, we have fulfilled the eternal promise and actually we have built the wall, it's deep down inside of all of us. And its unbreakable steel concrete solar panels of brotherhood work best when we reelect Republicans. See, the DrudgeReport is reporting bad hombre crossings are down 99.8% since Trump took office, and 14WordsPatriot.news is also reporting Mexican rapists are cowering with fear right now. The bonds we have formed with the GOP Congress and Trump together as Americans have created the wall in our hearts, and inspired a wall of terror in the hearts of criminal bad guy illegals who stopped coming on January 20th 2017, so now reelect us to make sure the Mexicans don't get any ideas over there and stop Democrat treachery.
07-13-2017 , 04:54 PM
If I were global dictator, every republican that says they are "concerned" but take no action everytime a new damning story is released would be instantly jailed for treason.
07-13-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
The only correction I would make to this post is that it is not so much that they are pretending there is "some doubt" but rather they are pretending it is "no big deal". Trump is in big trouble regarding Russia, if and only if it can be shown that his campaigns's involvement with them almost certainly included their knowledge or strong suspicion that they were being helped by illegal hacking.
Trump publicly called for Russia to get Hillary's e-mails.
07-13-2017 , 05:03 PM


https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/stat...87401485291522

So we're moved from the "never heard about this meeting" to the "I might have heard something Don Jr, my campaign chair, and son and law had a meeting with a Russian contact" point.
07-13-2017 , 05:12 PM
That Donald Trump heard his campaign staff was taking meetings with foreign nationals from a hostile country we were sanctioning and arranged by a tabloid journalist and Azerbaijani reality star but was completely incurious about any of the details before and after -- that might be the most credible part of the story.
07-13-2017 , 05:13 PM
This is Trump's lawyer on tilt after a random suggested he resign.

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Kasowitz replied with series of angry messages sent between 9:30 p.m. and 10 p.m. Eastern time. One read: “I’m on you now. You are ****ing with me now Let’s see who you are Watch your back , *****.”

In another email, Kasowitz wrote: “Call me. Don’t be afraid, you piece of ****. Stand up. If you don’t call, you’re just afraid.” And later: “I already know where you live, I’m on you. You might as well call me. You will see me. I promise. Bro.”

Kasowitz’s spokesman, Michael Sitrick, said Thursday he couldn’t immediately reach Kasowitz for comment.
Did he try email?

https://www.propublica.org/article/m...-emails-maddow

Last edited by uDevil; 07-13-2017 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Context

      
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