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06-24-2011 , 10:36 PM
Both are correct in your example. There are some cases where the latter form is ambiguous though...for example, "he likes cheese more than me" could conceivably mean "he likes cheese more than he likes me", so you'd use "I do" instead to clarify.
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06-24-2011 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Could somebody please tell me what the rule is regarding when to say "than I" or "than me". For example, which is correct out of:

(A) "He knows more than I do";
(B) "He knows more than me"?
It's interestingly problematic. There's a good discussion of the question here:
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...s-than-me.aspx
And as this site suggests, there's a long history to the debate. For the record, I come down on the "conjunctionist" side.

When I was in high school I was taught A was the formally correct answer and B was acceptable in casual use. That's not a bad rule of thumb, though I've come to prefer A.
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06-24-2011 , 11:41 PM
Isn't A correct bc you're just leaving off the word "do" at the end of B, even though it is implied? You wouldn't say "He knows more than me do."
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06-25-2011 , 12:14 AM
I usually just make due with whatever is available when it comes to grammar. I can't be bothered with all the nitty details, since the internet is chalk full of grammar mistakes.

I feel so dirty just posting here...
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06-25-2011 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
I usually just make due with whatever is available when it comes to grammar. I can't be bothered with all the nitty details, since the internet is chalk full of grammar mistakes.

I feel so dirty just posting here...
That's fine.

Spoiler:
If the only writing you do in your entire life is posting to internet fora.
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06-25-2011 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto
That's fine.

Spoiler:
If the only writing you do in your entire life is posting to internet fora.
I was just playing along and making the obvious mistakes, but true.
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06-25-2011 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardball47
I usually just make due with whatever is available when it comes to grammar. I can't be bothered with all the nitty details, since the internet is chalk full of grammar mistakes.

I feel so dirty just posting here...
Leveling, right?
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06-25-2011 , 01:29 AM
LOL Yes.

Looks like it worked.
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06-25-2011 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto
If the only writing you do in your entire life is posting to internet fora.
Interesting how I never learned about "fora" until just now.
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06-25-2011 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto
It's interestingly problematic. There's a good discussion of the question here:
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...s-than-me.aspx
Thanks. I like this kind of thing, even though I don't fully understand it. (I was never taught formal grammar at a young age and I seem to have a mental block about it. I think not teaching grammar to children is ridiculous.)
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06-25-2011 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Thanks. I like this kind of thing, even though I don't fully understand it. (I was never taught formal grammar at a young age and I seem to have a mental block about it. I think not teaching grammar to children is ridiculous.)
I agree. One of the very best arguments these days for having kids study a second language in school such as Spanish or French is that, even if they never acquire proficiency in that language, at least they will become acquainted with the basics of grammar and the structure of language.
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06-25-2011 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto
I agree. One of the very best arguments these days for having kids study a second language in school such as Spanish or French is that, even if they never acquire proficiency in that language, at least they will become acquainted with the basics of grammar and the structure of language.
I lived in France for a while (as an adult) and I found that learning French forced me to learn some grammar (not sure how well it stuck, though).

I think part of the theory of teaching English when I was at school was to deliberately avoid grammar; I don't know if this is still the case. I was taught Latin for three years at secondary school so that should have helped, but the teacher sucked at teaching (great guy though that he was). Goddam, it would be awesome to know Latin.
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06-26-2011 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RKW3
Interesting how I never learned about "fora" until just now.
Probably because you never learned Latin before.
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06-26-2011 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DDNK
Probably because you never learned Latin before.
According to my favorite usage guide, the preferred plural is forums.
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06-26-2011 , 01:35 AM
Login to the forae to make some posteaux.
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06-26-2011 , 08:21 AM
Believe it's log in.

Believe it's epistulae.
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06-26-2011 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Could somebody please tell me what the rule is regarding when to say "than I" or "than me". For example, which is correct out of:

(A) "He knows more than I do";
(B) "He knows more than me"?
A is correct. "perfectly clear", would be:
He knows more than I know.

B is actually saying:
"He knows who I am -- but he knows more than just who I am."

The rule is:
The cases of the pronouns being compared need to match.

Ie. You would NEVER say:

(C) He knows more than my.
(D) He knows more than mine.
(E) He knows more than myself.

ftw
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06-26-2011 , 07:28 PM
Here's an article on plagiarism. This part is relevant to this thread:

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C: But that’s just the constraints of the assignment, right?

T: Yes, but it is a red flag to me that there is plagiarism elsewhere in the paper. The second one is grammatical. In those cases I was alerted to plagiarism by the sudden appearance, in a paper that is otherwise a morass of grammatical errors, of a series of flawless sentences with complicated structures. The correct use of a semicolon is a big red flag for me. As is the use—and often misuse—of specialized jargon or technical language that I’ve not discussed with them in class. Then I type those sentences into Google, and they all wind up being smoking-gun cases of plagiarism. My favorite case this semester was plagiarism within plagiarism. When I informed this student that I suspected her paper was plagiarized, she said to me, “I got my paper from one of the students who was in your class last semester. How was I to know that she had plagiarized?” Which indicated to me, along with a number of the other email responses I got from students, that many of them don’t even know what plagiarism is.
Emphasis mine
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06-26-2011 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DDNK
Believe it's log in.

Believe it's epistulae.
I werent even trying to get it correct!

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“I got my paper from one of the students who was in your class last semester. How was I to know that she had plagiarized?”
lol wow
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07-01-2011 , 03:37 PM
Question: Which is correct?

Name is Boyd.

Two brothers own a painting company. Two brothers = plural. They also this possess the company.

Boyd's Painting Inc.

Boyds' Painting Inc.

Boyds Painting Inc.
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07-01-2011 , 04:10 PM
"Boyd..." is best. Two brothers might be plural, but the family -- "the Boyd family" -- is singular. "Boyd's..." is the best one listed.

"Boyd & Boyd" would work, but a lot of prospective customers would suddenly wonder why these lawyers are asking to paint their house.
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07-02-2011 , 01:56 AM
boyd brothers painting inc.
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07-02-2011 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mikech
boyd brothers painting inc.
Yup.
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07-07-2011 , 11:45 PM


Gulity of Muder.
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07-07-2011 , 11:48 PM
They're ******ed housewives anyway.
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