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03-06-2014 , 02:30 PM

#4876

KPowers

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"Why doesn't aol.com track hits anymore?"

I feel this is not how this should be written, but I don't really know what's better.

Oh, and tell your grandparents not to worry, aol.com is still tracking hits.

EDIT:

How does "Why is aol.com no longer tracking hits?" sound?

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03-06-2014 , 04:20 PM

#4877

PokerDharma

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I like semicolons; they're useful for adjoining complete thoughts.

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03-06-2014 , 05:21 PM

#4878

Didace

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Originally Posted by KPowers

"Why doesn't aol.com track hits anymore?"

I feel this is not how this should be written, but I don't really know what's better.

Why do you feel that way? It looks fine to me.

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03-06-2014 , 06:10 PM

#4879

PokerDharma

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Why for come AOL no track hits?

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03-06-2014 , 06:17 PM

#4880

NewOldGuy

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Originally Posted by PokerDharma

Why for come AOL no track hits?

No, you forgot the mandatory double negative.

"Why AOL don't track no hits?"

But to translate the original properly into standard bad grammar you need this:

"Why AOL don't track no hits no more?"

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03-09-2014 , 07:12 PM

#4881

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03-09-2014 , 11:49 PM

#4882

mindraider

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Always "If I were you..." or "If I were a rockstar...", and never was, right?

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03-10-2014 , 12:13 AM

#4883

ChrisV

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Originally Posted by mindraider

Always "If I were you..." or "If I were a rockstar...", and never was, right?

"Were" is correct but either are considered acceptable. "Was" is slightly more colloquial, fine in conversation but sloppy in written language.

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03-10-2014 , 12:28 AM

#4884

NewOldGuy

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Last edited by NewOldGuy; 03-10-2014 at 12:34 AM.

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03-10-2014 , 11:34 AM

#4885

RussellinToronto

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

"Were" is correct but either are considered acceptable. "Was" is slightly more colloquial, fine in conversation but sloppy in written language.

The subjunctive "were" is a way of indicating impossible or implausible statements. "If I were you" sounds much better to me in conversation as well as in writing.

Even in the song, it's "If I were a carpenter ..." Though when Johnny Cash sings it, it's not hard to imagine that he could become one.

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03-10-2014 , 05:08 PM

#4886

metsandfinsfan

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Werr is the conditional tense

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03-10-2014 , 06:52 PM

#4887

W0X0F

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

Werr is the conditional tense

In what language?

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03-10-2014 , 08:49 PM

#4888

steve1238

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Originally Posted by mindraider

Always "If I were you..." or "If I were a rockstar...", and never was, right?

http://youtu.be/v9YOptg8D-U#t=00m26s

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03-10-2014 , 09:58 PM

#4889

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Had a Facebook friend share this and did a double take. Anybody else think the headline implies something rather different about the song than the author intended?

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Ryan Dolan releases anti-gay bullying song ‘Start Again’

Ryan Dolan has released a new single with an anti-gay bullying message.

Dolan, who represented Ireland at last year’s Eurovision Song Contest, came out as gay last month (February).

ETA: Thinking about it, there is are two possible interpretations, neither of which are what the author intended.

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03-10-2014 , 10:05 PM

#4890

NewOldGuy

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I think a second hyphen after "gay" fixes it and would have the intended meaning.

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03-10-2014 , 11:22 PM

#4891

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy

I think a comma after "gay" fixes it and would have the intended meaning.

Fyp

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03-10-2014 , 11:38 PM

#4892

NewOldGuy

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Originally Posted by steve1238

Fyp

Yeah, now it has the opposite meaning. Punctuation is everything.

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03-11-2014 , 09:43 AM

#4893

GMan42

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy

I think a second hyphen after "gay" fixes it and would have the intended meaning.

Pretty much, but again this is one that benefits most from just rephrasing it. Like "Ryan Dolan releases 'Start Again', a song speaking out against gay bullying" or whatever.

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03-11-2014 , 10:57 AM

#4894

joejoe1337

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My phone is being annoying and won't let me upload but my girlfriend got me a pack of the candy love hearts and one said 'its love'. Rage.

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03-11-2014 , 12:36 PM

#4895

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03-11-2014 , 03:41 PM

#4896

Shrike

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

"Were" is correct but either are considered acceptable. "Was" is slightly more colloquial, fine in conversation but sloppy in written language.

There is a difference between being common (as, for example, misuse of the conditional in oral English) and being acceptable.

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03-11-2014 , 03:44 PM

#4897

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And btw:

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

"Were" is correct but either are is considered acceptable.

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Originally Posted by JaredL

ETA: Thinking about it, there is are two possible interpretations, neither of which are is what the author intended.

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03-15-2014 , 10:47 PM

#4898

Hector Cerif

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So I've been seeing parenthesis sentence structure I'm not used to lately and I'm wondering what's best.

Blah blah blah (blah).

or,

Blah blah blah. (blah.)

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03-15-2014 , 10:52 PM

#4899

Hector Cerif

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Bonus round:

I was just corrected for saying "on accident." (It's "by accident" ldo.)

But then why doesn't that hold true for "on purpose?" You don't normally hear "by purpose" (unless there's some grammatical rule here I'm not getting).

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03-16-2014 , 09:44 AM

#4900

baumer

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I think it has something to do with the intention.

You act on purpose. The act and intention is due to some purpose, the actor receives credit for acting on a purpose.

You screw up by accident. The mechanism that determines the outcome was not the intended/planned for, so it is attributed to some outside force using "by".

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