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06-23-2013 , 09:22 PM

#4426

Rei Ayanami

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"Five Guys" is singular.

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06-23-2013 , 09:25 PM

#4427

RollWave

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not when referring to the 5 people that are the namesakes.

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06-23-2013 , 09:34 PM

#4428

Rei Ayanami

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Yah, didn't know what you were referring to in post #4425, but that makes sense.

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06-23-2013 , 09:42 PM

#4429

FromACtoLV

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I don't know if it is still in business, but there used to be a hair salon in Louisiana called "Your So Cool"

It tilted me every time I drove by it.

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06-23-2013 , 09:56 PM

#4430

DucoGranger

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My boss comes to me and says "Hey Duco, we are coming to the end of the year and we need to help the kids with their TOEFL Writing Tests. Here are some examples I would like you to work with them on and have them write on these topics."

So he emails me a packet containing about 20 one-page essays and they are so horribad that I feel compelled to share my pain with you.

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Originally Posted by Shown As Is

...In fact, advertisements should be honest that it contains real information of the product. Meanwhile nowadays advertisement appears to be more misleading and make products better from the appearance.

Advertisement seems to make us hard to tell the reality from the fantasy. There is a specific example. When targeted to the young children, enterprises tend to use fantasy themes and characters from fantasy movies to help show off their product. Since young children tend not to tell the reality to the fantasy, they will be misled and believe that the product appearing in the advertisement is worth buying. But in fact, the quality of the product will disappoint its buyers.

Moreover, nowadays manufacturers tend to ask celebrities to advertise their products. This will also be misleading, too...

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06-23-2013 , 10:52 PM

#4431

Wubbie075

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Correct usage of "its" tho.

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06-24-2013 , 01:34 AM

#4432

Brian O'Nolan

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That's standard fare for an ESL environment. Is your boss a native speaker?

Focus on the positives: amusing phrases like "advertisement seems to make us hard" and all the stuff that's correct.

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06-24-2013 , 03:03 AM

#4433

DucoGranger

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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan

That's standard fare for an ESL environment. Is your boss a native speaker?

Focus on the positives: amusing phrases like "advertisement seems to make us hard" and all the stuff that's correct.

No, but he's damn good compared to my history of ESL bosses. He's at about a 90% proficiency. He honestly should know better but it came from a "reputable" Chinese source. I don't think he looked too much at it honestly.

But yeah, Im using these as a like a DOL where Im trying to show them the mistakes that are there. Im also trying to get them to do self-revision and see the mistakes before I point them out. They don't seem too enthused though

(PS I had a real WTF moment when I read "specific" and not a single thing in that whole paragraph gave specifics about the example.)

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06-24-2013 , 11:55 AM

#4434

RussellinToronto

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Originally Posted by DucoGranger

Some 35 years ago I attended a workshop run by Richard Lanham, who was then trying to deal with the problems he was seeing at UCLA in some of their 1st-year students. He showed us samples of high school writing from inner city LA schools and argued that there were now teenagers in the city who had functioning vocabularies of about 750 words, mixing English, Spanish, and Asian, thus making them "illiterate in three languages."

He thought it would get worse. My sense is that it has not. Not better, not worse. The struggle to educate goes on.

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06-26-2013 , 08:49 AM

#4435

DiegoArmando

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Hello fellow nits. I have a sentence that Cambridge seem to think is ok. I don't.

what say the learned people of this thread?

The new clothing is by no means cheap, that will not stop it from selling well, and not just in the sailing market like previous types of waterproof clothing, which tended to leave the wearer hot, sweaty and sticky even after a relatively short burst of energetic activity, these new clothes are manufactured with an additional inner layer.

Gracias

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06-26-2013 , 10:00 AM

#4436

GMan42

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Looks to me as if the writer meant for that to be two sentences, the first ending after "market", which makes it flow much better. As written, it's hideous. If this is from a published source, I'd almost have to assume it's an editing error.

I'd also substitute "which" for "that" after the first comma.

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06-26-2013 , 10:11 AM

#4437

SGT RJ

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That sentence is the opposite of okay.

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06-26-2013 , 12:04 PM

#4438

NewOldGuy

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Atrocious. Just for starters it has way too many dependent clauses crammed in a sentence.

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06-26-2013 , 12:42 PM

#4439

atakdog

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Eww.

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06-26-2013 , 03:50 PM

#4440

RussellinToronto

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Originally Posted by DiegoArmando

Joe Cambridge, the sportscaster for XERB?

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06-27-2013 , 04:54 AM

#4441

metsandfinsfan

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http://www.grammarly.com/download/sa...aign=smm_glite

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06-27-2013 , 01:42 PM

#4442

Hector Cerif

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for some reason it's really bugging me when i hear people say "a historic," as apposed to an historic. It just sounds forced.

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06-27-2013 , 03:35 PM

#4443

NewOldGuy

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"Historic" has a hard H and should always take the article "a". This is the correct American English pronunciation.

Let the arguing begin.

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06-27-2013 , 03:37 PM

#4444

Bremen

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy

"Historic" has a hard H and should take the article "a".

Let the arguing begin.

My HS English teacher would drop the H. The article is determined by how it is pronounced, not written.

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06-27-2013 , 03:39 PM

#4445

NewOldGuy

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Originally Posted by Bremen

My HS English teacher would drop the H. The article is determined by how it is pronounced, not written.

Your teacher is incorrect in their pronunciation.

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06-27-2013 , 03:47 PM

#4446

Bremen

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It is common enough to get mentioned

http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionar...onary/historic

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HELP Some speakers do not pronounce the ‘h’ at the beginning of historic and use ‘an’ instead of ‘a’ before it. This now sounds old-fashioned.

Much more annoyingly, she pronounced human without the h.

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06-27-2013 , 03:50 PM

#4447

NewOldGuy

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Originally Posted by Bremen

It is common enough to get mentioned

Fair enough, but this is the nit thread.

I say it's wrong, and even somewhat pretentious to use the silent H pronunciation.

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06-27-2013 , 04:11 PM

#4448

Bremen

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Unless you want to argue about color/colour I would not go down that road.

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06-27-2013 , 04:45 PM

#4449

ObezyankaNol

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy

Your teacher is incorrect in their pronunciation.

Ha.

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06-27-2013 , 05:09 PM

#4450

ObezyankaNol

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Not sure where to put this (from FB)

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