Yeah they’re probably going to make some sort of montage of all the best videos for a marketing campaign of some kind. Awesome idea from their perspective, not so awesome for the pawns desperately hoping to hit their one outer .

Sorry if I hurt you by pointing out your self-limiting beliefs w/r/t dating in your 30s.

When it rains, it pours, I have dates M/W/Th/S and a few on the hook for Friday so we'll see how it goes. Tomorrow night's 24y is getting her PhD in one of the hard sciences. No pun intended.

I dont see what could go wrong. Go for it!

LOL amazing

Yep, even in Las Vegas, most women aren't big on it, at least those in their late 30s to 40s.
Could even be worse here, as most locals know someone who went broke or even stole from them because of a gambling habit.

I guess in other countries, where FK travels, it's not a big deal.

I think it isn't as a big a deal when you travel b/c the assumption is probably that you must be doing ok if you've traveled a lot and are living abroad.

I'm sure I've lost some matches along the way due to poker, but it hasn't been too noticeable up to this point.

Now that I work in non-profit, saying it was a former career of mine has been viewed way more positively than when I was actually doing it :shrug:

see that's been my case, but i've found even mentioning it as former career hurts

1. they don't believe you - think you like to exaggerate

2. they believe you and ask you how many bracelets you have - disappointed and think you went broke

3. they believe you - but now you're not someone who can be trusted because you used to gambol

4. they believe you but now think you're like rainman and tell everyone you were a former poker pro and then everyone else starts repeating from option 1 and go down.

5. it's impressive but they are glad you aren't doing it anymore - then they freak out when you decide you want to unwind going to Joe's home game on Friday - they start imagining it'll be like yayogate and you'll end up losing the mortage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikL-18q7uQ4

basically, i'm thinking i should never mention it at all until it's at a very serious stage

I'm mostly abroad and traveling. I don't get this sort of benefit of doubt. But maybe I'm a bit more pessimistic and viewing it more negatively. Even when success playing to pay for travel and rent is indisputable, they think it's just a matter of time before busto.

for reference, i'm in my late 30s and looking for someone who is a professional, last few girlfriends owned their own businesses and/or had graduate degrees that kind of thing so maybe I'm just a fishing in the wrong waters expecting poker to viewed alright

lmao @ yayogate

I was excited about meeting a woman Saturday. Cute, small Asian who graduated from Oxford and just moved downtown last week. Lived very close to me. But she flaked. I realized that it's been more than a month since I've met anyone from an app. I talked to a few women who seemed like good prospects over that time, but two immediately went out of town and one disconnected because I wasn't religious enough for her. Each week it makes me appreciate the FWB more. She always shows up when she says she will and she's into me.

I really haven't done so well with the app dating. After eight months, I still have yet to really score from an app. My FWB was through an in-person Hinge event. My brother is really frustrated with app dating as well and says he wants to delete them all, and even he's scored three times over the period since I've joined app dating. The difference is probably that I'm much more selective.

I do feel like I'm over my ex now, and I've built up my life somewhat post-relationship. I made a male friend at a bar and we hang out sometimes. I made a friend from app dating. She's a successful architect who works two blocks from where I live. We're not each other's types, but we've found we have stuff in common so we text a lot and hang out once or twice a week. We're taking a group intermediate tennis class together. Then of course there's the FWB who I've been seeing for four months.

App dating just isn't as easy as expected. One of the women who was out of town returned home today, so we'll see if I can get something going there. If not, maybe I'll just move to Colombia or DR. One of the front desk guys in my apartment is from the DR and says you can live like a king there for $1k/mo. I can pretty much do my current job from anywhere.

I think your conclusion is correct. Poker is essentially unskilled work, so unless you have a good degree and a decent net worth to go alongside your poker career (i.e., poker is a choice because you make a good living rather than you play because you can't do anything else), professional women are going to pass you over more often than not.

If she gives you any pushback for being a poker player, show her your Hendon mob and challenge her HU4ROLLZ.

I just tell them poker has supplemented my income for the past 10 years and funded my advertising business to the point that I can work 30-40 hours a week and travel and do whatever I want. I found during my time in Vegas that the poker player stigma (for locals and Vegas natives) was generally negative because it was generally associated with the liars and druggies that they used to date. Basically there's thousands of broke degens in Vegas that tell everyone they're a professional poker player. All while living in a weekly extended stay or still broke.

I'm traveling to SLC tomorrow to go-to Park City, UT to work with a client for 3 days. It should be pretty sweet (but dead) staying in a ritzy house in the mountains during the summer. I never had much luck on apps in past visits there just due to really low volume, but I may spend the weekend in Denver. I love it there.

See that's the thing, I went to boarding school, attended a great college, played poker for a while and then had a lot of success in the tech world.

Most people I went to school with are now doctors, lawyers and ibankers.

The most "wow I love this women" moment of my life was when she took me to her place and the walls were nothing but bookshelves of historical non-fiction. The fact that she had half a dozen books on the Napoleonic Wars and another half dozen on Punic Wars - including original texts... that was the moment right then and there that I knew I had to make her my girlfriend.

This may sound a bit shallow, but I've never seen that kind of interest in someone who didn't at one point attend a college or university and/or probably has a fairly successful career. So it's kind of an easy filter for me, I'm not sorting for finances and education, but using finances and education to easier filter away from pop culture and more towards my own interests.

The fact that I see poker as a fantastic hobby and something that I may want to go back to from time to time absolutely terrifies these kind of succesful and well educated women.

It seems that poker is only ok for them if it's something I will never return to nor keep in my life. One girl, I even showed my graph to and then pointed out that live games were even easier. She didn't view it as losing proposition, but she wanted her boyfriend to be a tech entrepreneur who spent his vacation time scuba diving instead of someone who spends his vacation in Macau and always keeps the option to go back to poker in his back pocket.

This is why me playing some donkaments online for $2 to while away a saturday afternoon or bringing $100 to my buddy's low stakes and booze friendly home game can be something they can get quite upset about. It's a struggle for me, and why I often just stay silent on it and don't mention it unless it would naturally come up.

Happy to hear not everyone is dealing with this, maybe it's part of lolsamplesize

this made me laugh, I used to actually try teaching them the game, only one would ever play me heads up and she would try to pivot it into seduction and ****.

It was weird, beautiful woman I'd happily sleep with any other time, but here I am trying to explain to her with all seriousness why she had no FE on that river bluff shove but she doesn't care, she just thought it'd be fun to placate me for a for moments with poker before trying to take my pants off.

I've done that move as well. Women love men that are good at something. If you can position yourself as an expert in something that they are not familiar with, but curious about, then it puts you way ahead of guys who put all of their value in anything that anyone can achieve. Like a nice house/apartment/fancy car/material possessions.

Agreed - I'll just pick something relevant to dating/any shared hobbies or interests and explain how it can tie in (likely poorly) to Nash Equilibrium

Please meet her. This would make an amazing trip report. I'd have so many questions for her.

This girl couldn't even be arsed to send an "hola", all I got was a .

this the perfect opening for a punctuation leveling war

Haha, I had already sent back .!

Yeah, that gets a ? back or nothing. Forget that nonsense. Bumble was so horrible, I almost never got a worthwhile opener that I can remember. Did meet a few worthwhile girls though.

I’m kind of seeing someone now but I had some nice success with this tag line for getting women interested in a causal thing:

“Over 6’ and 4”. Two separate measurements”

Ha, I matched with a girl who wrote this in her profile:

No me pongo en 4 por menos de 20

Roughly translated: I don't go down on all 4s for less than 20cm (just under 8 inches)

I think it's just a profile fishing for IG follows, so not expecting a response.

Fossil,

While I agree it's obviously true that the tens/hundreds/whatever of also-rans are part of their marketing strategy, I think it's pretty unreasonable to believe that they have anything really close to an individual selected that at this point. If you want to drop out, sure, but it doesn't necessarily make sense for them not to be playing this pretty straight at this point. Sure, they might have frontrunners, but there would be very little benefit to them to not actually having their consideration pool be pretty wide at this point. In fact, there's fairly obvious reasons why it would be potentially a huge negative for them to have ~selected a winner at this point.

Can you remind exactly what steps you have gone through to this point? Like, you've submitted some kind of written application? Have you submitted any video, social media, interviewed, identified yourself, etc?

Anyway, personally I can't really understand why you would drop out at this point, if you were compelled to do step 1. But it's your life. I just think it's slightly nonsensical to attribute this kind of "this game is rigged so I'm not playing" to a pretty generic marketing campaign. I say all that as someone who has run international marketing campaigns for selecting individuals for brand ambassador type positions.