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09-02-2012 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HU4hoes
it's a 3bet pot - people tend to spaz more
your sizing looked like it induce
and the turn card seems to make the board more drawy for him to ship a hand like AJ etc
yes you may run into sets at times but cooler
+ Yo'crazy for folding overpair in 3b pot for 100bb's
Baluga doesnt apply to 3b pots

Last edited by Burnss; 09-02-2012 at 02:55 PM. Reason: edit cant read HH's
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09-02-2012 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hmpf!
Hmm...
*villain dependent only*
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09-02-2012 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chad0x00
*villain dependent only*
I'm not buying it.
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09-02-2012 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoomnl
Why are we scared only of QJ? I mean, theres much more combos that beat us, practically any connectors, sets....

What worse is he shipping?

Am I missing something?
I think ur missing that its a 3bet pot.. dont c many ppl call pre with QJ unless they r fishies.. even suited connectors r usually not called with too

Go bigger on turn and if he shoves, its too hard to fold now when uve put in so much

he can easily b spaz shoving JJ-QQ (one has oesd, one has gutter)
both of which r more likely than him having TT-99

Much easier fold in single raised pot if he raises turn
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09-02-2012 , 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomnl
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $12.25
SB: $12.63
BB: $10.00
UTG: $34.89
MP: $23.13
Hero (CO): $17.57

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q A

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 6 5 A
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 3
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

River: ($3.95, 2 players) Q
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG raises to $32.99 and is all-in, fold
Good fold
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09-02-2012 , 07:09 PM
Soo I'm back at 2nl trying to rebuild

But jeez people at 2nl are acting super weird they're almost everyone limping all the time, I'm trying to figure out how much I need to bet preflop so they just fold,

0.36 or 18bb preflop after they limp doesn't work, they will still call and fold most of the flops or just call down with A high

Guess gonna try 0.38 and up until they fold 100%
And no I'm not concerned getting exploited because ppl at 2nl don't

Seriously what is wrong with the people at 2nl zoom

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Zoom No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $5.84
Hero (SB): $6.51
BB: $7.26
UTG: $2.57
MP: $1.16
CO: $0.53

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 6 8
UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.36, BB calls $0.34, 2 folds, CO calls $0.34, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.14) Q 7 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.66, BB calls $0.66, CO calls $0.17 all in

Turn: ($2.63) 4 (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $5.49 all in, BB calls $5.49

River: ($13.61) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $13.61
Hero shows 6 8 (a straight, Four to Eight)
BB shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
CO shows Q T (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $11.72
Hero wins $1.59
(Rake: $0.30)

Last edited by Frostyice; 09-02-2012 at 07:15 PM.
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09-02-2012 , 08:13 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13839082

    BTN: $3.33 (66.6 bb)
    SB: $0.61 (12.2 bb)
    BB: $11.60 (232 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $21.04 (420.8 bb)
    MP: $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $5.65 (113 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 7
    Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.47, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.32

    Flop: ($1.01) J 7 T (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.68, Hero raises to $1.36, MP raises to $4.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.17

    Turn: ($10.07) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($10.07) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10.07 pot ($0.42 rake)
    Final Board: J 7 T K K
    Hero showed 7 7 and lost (-$5 net)
    MP showed K K and won $9.65 ($4.65 net)



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    dafuqq is going on? dont see quads for a month then see them 3 times in one day always for stacks?...I love poker so much right now. Its these surprises it throws up at us that makes it worth playing.
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    09-02-2012 , 10:42 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zoomnl
    Dunna: I dont think we can assume he always raises his better combos on flop, its nl10 and I just cant get over if he would really do it that light like JT, but I guess ur right

    One hand that just happened:
    Vill is 17/15/36(cbflop)/2(agg factor) after 400 hands

    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BTN: $12.25
    SB: $12.63
    BB: $10.00
    UTG: $34.89
    MP: $23.13
    Hero (CO): $17.57

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q A

    UTG raises to $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

    Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 6 5 A
    UTG checks, Hero bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50

    Turn: ($1.75, 2 players) 3
    UTG checks, Hero bets $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

    River: ($3.95, 2 players) Q
    UTG checks, Hero bets $2.60, UTG raises to $32.99 and is all-in, fold
    thats such a gross river.. imo check turn, theres not much fe. all his continueing range otf is coming along ott. we have sdv vs draws etc.. i prob shrug and fold because im a nit but if you called i wouldnt be upset..


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chad0x00
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13839082

      BTN: $3.33 (66.6 bb)
      SB: $0.61 (12.2 bb)
      BB: $11.60 (232 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $21.04 (420.8 bb)
      MP: $5 (100 bb)
      CO: $5.65 (113 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 7
      Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.47, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.32

      Flop: ($1.01) J 7 T (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $0.68, Hero raises to $1.36, MP raises to $4.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.17

      Turn: ($10.07) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($10.07) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $10.07 pot ($0.42 rake)
      Final Board: J 7 T K K
      Hero showed 7 7 and lost (-$5 net)
      MP showed K K and won $9.65 ($4.65 net)



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      dafuqq is going on? dont see quads for a month then see them 3 times in one day always for stacks?...I love poker so much right now. Its these surprises it throws up at us that makes it worth playing.
      variance gonna variance..
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      09-02-2012 , 10:47 PM
      turn is bet is for fat value, do not check there
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      09-02-2012 , 11:11 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Frostyice
      But jeez people at 2nl are acting super weird they're almost everyone limping all the time, I'm trying to figure out how much I need to bet preflop so they just fold,
      ./facepalm
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      09-02-2012 , 11:25 PM
      Now that is a nice 1000th troll psot for lols..
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Frostyice
      Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Zoom No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 6 8
      UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.36
      right?..
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      09-02-2012 , 11:44 PM
      Quote:
      thats such a gross river.. imo check turn, theres not much fe. all his continueing range otf is coming along ott. we have sdv vs draws etc.. i prob shrug and fold because im a nit but if you called i wouldnt be upset..
      Ill give you the benefit of the doubt - You must have missed the fact we flopped TPGK...

      If not... this advice isnt great. Plenty of value OTT. If you insist on a check somewhere, check back the river (though, not this river) >>>>>>>>> checking back the turn <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< betting the turn and evaluating the river. (Probably going to be a third value bet on 90% of rivers)
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      09-03-2012 , 12:47 AM
      at the rate im going I'm putting 10k hands in 32 hours, anyone putting more volume? I'm up 5 BI at my stakes

      4 tabling zoom only nets me 500 hands /hr ... im using hotkeys too so am I too slow or something?
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      09-03-2012 , 12:57 AM
      In 32 hours, I put in about 30-35k hands.. 4 tabling 500/hr is super slow


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      Hero (BTN): $24.87 (248.7 bb)
      SB: $6.43 (64.3 bb)
      BB: $5.30 (53 bb)
      UTG: $8.62 (86.2 bb)
      MP: $7.23 (72.3 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
      UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.66, 3 folds, MP calls $1.36, CO calls $1.36

      Flop: ($5.43) J 9 8 (3 players)
      MP checks, CO bets $4.15

      co 23/13 and 28 agg freq
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      09-03-2012 , 12:58 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by GutshotDan92
      Ill give you the benefit of the doubt - You must have missed the fact we flopped TPGK...

      If not... this advice isnt great. Plenty of value OTT. If you insist on a check somewhere, check back the river (though, not this river) >>>>>>>>> checking back the turn <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< betting the turn and evaluating the river. (Probably going to be a third value bet on 90% of rivers)
      rofl sorry guys i thought op had QQ.. forgiveness! obvious turn bet is obvious
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      09-03-2012 , 01:06 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by khangura175
      In 32 hours, I put in about 30-35k hands.. 4 tabling 500/hr is super slow


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

      Hero (BTN): $24.87 (248.7 bb)
      SB: $6.43 (64.3 bb)
      BB: $5.30 (53 bb)
      UTG: $8.62 (86.2 bb)
      MP: $7.23 (72.3 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
      UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.66, 3 folds, MP calls $1.36, CO calls $1.36

      Flop: ($5.43) J 9 8 (3 players)
      MP checks, CO bets $4.15

      co 23/13 and 28 agg freq
      villian wouldnt spazz out on this board, set is very likely or a sick draw. so we are either crushed or justahead..
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      09-03-2012 , 01:25 AM
      even if i had QQ id still bet turn for value
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      09-03-2012 , 01:46 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by khangura175
      Now that is a nice 1000th troll psot for lols..
      right?..


      680.5bb pot, biggest I've ever won

      And how? by open shoving the nuts

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      09-03-2012 , 02:01 AM
      Trying to make people fold at 2nl is gonna lead to heartbreak
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      09-03-2012 , 02:18 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Frostyice
      680.5bb pot, biggest I've ever won

      And how? by open shoving the nuts
      i jus had a epiphany
      based on how fishies at nl2dont c the straight as much as the flush
      try this n let me kno how it works:
      Spoiler:
      OVERBET SHOVE EVERY ****ING TIME WITH A STRAIGHT NO MATTER WHAT
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      09-03-2012 , 07:55 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by raikkonen3
      I probably flat AKs in that position too, very easy hand to play even OOP.

      Finally got a bluff through, about time! #brag


      PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $105.46
      SB: $177.22
      BB: $62.07
      UTG: $51.50
      MP: $30.38
      Hero (CO): $119.31

      SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q A

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB raises to $5.00, fold, Hero calls $3.50

      Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) A J 9
      SB bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

      Turn: ($23.50, 2 players) 6
      SB bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

      River: ($48.50, 2 players) 3
      SB bets $30.50, Hero raises to $95.31 and is all-in, fold

      Hero wins $107.00
      Nice hand..
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      09-03-2012 , 08:37 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by chad0x00
      Hero (UTG): $21.04 (420.8 bb)
      MP: $5 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 7
      Hero raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.47, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.32
      I... must... stop... picking... on Chad... but... zomgican'tcauseit'ssoeasyyyyy...

      Let's see how You explain this one
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      09-03-2012 , 09:56 AM
      Quote:
      500 hands/hr is quite slow
      oh i play full ring that's why... i can push it to 600 with 5 tabling zoom.. and i use hotkeys no mouse too! guess i have to tweak it up a notch!
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      09-03-2012 , 10:48 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Hmpf!
      I... must... stop... picking... on Chad... but... zomgican'tcauseit'ssoeasyyyyy...

      Let's see how You explain this one
      It's not that bad imo because implied odds are so strong as we will stack villain 90% of time when we hit as vast majority of regs will only have a strong value range here (KK/AA, some AK/QQ). Can't be bothered to do the maths but surely since we will stack villain so often when we hit it's still +EV.
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      09-03-2012 , 10:52 AM
      well i thought stacks gotta be 130 bb to be EV not just 100 bb when set mining for implied...

      but i can see where HMPF is coming from... a lot of chad's posts is sorta on the whiny side (no offense)
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