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@ITFT, why u 3bet so small oop?
Flop is ok but you need to be building that pot ott and not allowing villain price to draw. If he's calling flop with an underpair then turn changes nothing. Even if he didn't hit you're missing value

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09-04-2012 , 06:30 PM

#4602

ItTollsForThee

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^ think 11bbs is okay preflop, we're not deep but I see what you're saying about turn. Definitely need to work on that street, I keep bet/folding or else not betting big enough.

And I think 3 streets > 2, although 4x/call is pretty strong so wouldn't be surprised if I'm usually owning myself by bet/bet/betting here...

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09-04-2012 , 06:32 PM

#4603

ernano

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Originally Posted by gamma001

Think I'm calling here. He's a fish and sure he will turn up with the flush sometimes but he could also be not paying attention and not even notice the flush. He could be doing it with two pair like KJ,J9, also JJ and maybe QT. Against a good opponent I think its a fold but a fish who could be doing it with anything, call.

Thanks. V got nuts. Noted him

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Hero (BTN): $16.29
SB: $11.68
BB: $17.06
UTG: $11.72
UTG+1: $21.34
UTG+2: $10.71
MP1: $7.61
MP2: $20.42
CO: $2.90

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q

4 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 9

(3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.25) 2

(3 players)
BB bets $0.77, MP2 calls $0.77, Hero calls $0.77

River: ($3.56) T

(3 players)
BB bets $1.80, MP2 calls $1.80, Hero raises to $4.80, BB folds, MP2 calls $3

River Raise ok? Wanted to get max value and thought BB would also call.
BB is a reg and has near always a flopped/turned Set in such a spot. MP2 unknown, tending to be a fish

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09-04-2012 , 08:12 PM

#4604

khangura175

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River raise obv n standard, theres no way u can b beat there
I would probably raise to AT LEAST 5.80.. they never calling without 2pair+/weaker flush so bigger the better

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09-04-2012 , 08:40 PM

#4605

Queen6Suited

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what? ofc raise river with the nuts.

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09-04-2012 , 10:02 PM

#4606

philmcneal

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damn regs i really wanted to call but i was timing out so i couldn't check his stats... maybe you guys can

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Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13851632

BTN: $2.32 (116 bb)
SB: $3.64 (182 bb)
BB: $2.44 (122 bb)
UTG+1: $2 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $2.53 (126.5 bb)
MP1: $2 (100 bb)
MP2: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
MP3: $1.54 (77 bb)
Hero (CO): $1.56 (78 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T

UTG+1 raises to $0.04, UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.23) Q

(5 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.16, BTN folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.32, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.87) 3

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.64 and is all-in

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agaist a 15% open i got 69% equity according to stove... but somehow i don't feel that is believeable :S

also forgot to add the only reason i called the flop min check raise (19%) was because he was a reg and i wanted to see him shut down (even though the board was dry as hell) if it was a fish that did that play i would fold without losing sleep over it

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09-04-2012 , 11:36 PM

#4607

RocknRollNerd

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Originally Posted by RocknRollNerd

Is there any way to increase the speed of the HUD updating in Zoom games? Often I need to be playing a hand for up to a minute before it comes up with the new stats.

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09-04-2012 , 11:36 PM

#4608

philmcneal

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 602

your better off sounding your problem in the PT4 forum... the HEM forum is how i got my fix for my zoom problems

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09-05-2012 , 03:16 AM

#4609

philmcneal

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where all the zoom regs go

you guys ever bluff in this spot vs a reg?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $2.15 (107.5 bb)
SB: $0.90 (45 bb)
BB: $1.93 (96.5 bb)
UTG+1: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2 (100 bb)
MP1: $2.38 (119 bb)
MP2: $3.54 (177 bb)
Hero (MP3): $2.39 (119.5 bb)
CO: $1.30 (65 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.19) 8

(2 players)
MP2 bets $0.13, Hero raises to $0.37, MP2 calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.93) J

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.49, MP2 calls $0.49

River: ($1.91) 4

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.45

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09-05-2012 , 03:43 AM

#4610

Dunna100

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Vs a reg then fold pf. You'll miss too many flops and lose against better aces.

Once villain calls your flop raise then you should be taking the free card ott and folding if u don't hit the river, you can't bluff him off his King often enough for this to be a profitable play, esp on that board

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09-05-2012 , 04:10 AM

#4611

philmcneal

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^ say if i get the free card and i hit the flush on the river, wouldn't the reg be smart enough to fold his Kx hands when i value bet? Especially if I raised his flop cbet then decided to check the turn for pot control (which sets/two pairs never do)

since i want to build the pot so when i do hit the flush on the river, villy is less likely to fold the river due to being more committed by the river

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09-05-2012 , 04:37 AM

#4612

khangura175

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Most regs arent that smart though.. They will still call a half pot bet for sure

Also building pot for when u hit isnt always the right choice.. on the turn, hes not folding a king ever and might even go for a cr with a set/two pair in which case u r screwed and have to give up a large amount of equity

Oh and LOL@NIT SPAZZAMENTS

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $12.99 (129.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $48.83 (488.3 bb)
BB: $10.20 (102 bb)
UTG: $16.81 (168.1 bb)
MP: $6.20 (62 bb)
CO: $7.40 (74 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.40) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.20) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Results: $8.10 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 5

Hero showed K

and won $7.74 ($3.69 net)
BB showed T

and lost (-$4.05 net)

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09-05-2012 , 05:28 AM

#4613

chad0x001

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What is your thinking in this hand ^^ Im interested to know what makes you keep calling

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09-05-2012 , 05:30 AM

#4614

ernano

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Originally Posted by khangura175

River raise obv n standard, theres no way u can b beat there
I would probably raise to AT LEAST 5.80.. they never calling without 2pair+/weaker flush so bigger the better

Thanks. My english suxx. I know that i have nuts. Was asking for the ideal river size for max value. ty

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09-05-2012 , 06:13 AM

#4615

LosingShark

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

What is your thinking in this hand ^^ Im interested to know what makes you keep calling

villian was russian, the end.

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09-05-2012 , 06:33 AM

#4616

HU4hoes

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Originally Posted by chad0x00

What is your thinking in this hand ^^ Im interested to know what makes you keep calling

lol i has over pair

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09-05-2012 , 07:45 AM

#4617

chiego

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villain doesnt rep much
turn is good for us
river is total brick + lolpotodds

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09-05-2012 , 09:51 AM

#4618

ernano

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Originally Posted by philmcneal

damn regs i really wanted to call but i was timing out so i couldn't check his stats... maybe you guys can

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UTG+1 raises to $0.04, UTG+2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.23) Q

(5 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.16, BTN folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.32, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.87) 3

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.64 and is all-in

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easy fold. note him and bust him next time doing this.
second hand. fold pre. dont bluff at nl2zoom. nl2 doesnt need bluffs to be beatable. villiants dont fold much, ranges are too tight. Last time i played nl2zoom was i think 5 months ago. ABC beat easy nl2.

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09-05-2012 , 10:40 AM

#4619

ernano

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V fat fish. Easy Fold?

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) ($19.84)
SB ($11.51)
BB ($10)
UTG ($17.19)
UTG+1 ($5.26)
MP1 ($13.29)
MP2 ($14.03)
MP3 ($3.82)
CO ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, A

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) 9

, 10

, 9

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) K

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($3.15) K

(2 players)
MP1 bets $11.79 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $3.15 | Rake: $0.14

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09-05-2012 , 11:43 AM

#4620

philmcneal

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^ yeah i had a lot of scenarios like that and i fold as well but sometimes i run into this..

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13852392

BTN: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $1.63 (81.5 bb)
BB: $6.10 (305 bb)
UTG+1: $1.11 (55.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.98 (99 bb)
MP1: $1.69 (84.5 bb)
MP2: $1.74 (87 bb)
MP3: $3.38 (169 bb)
CO: $1.98 (99 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, MP3 calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.42) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Turn: ($0.42) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, MP3 calls $0.22

River: ($0.86) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.21, Hero calls $1.21 and is all-in

Results: $3.28 pot ($0.11 rake)
Final Board: 2

Hero showed Q

and won $3.17 ($1.54 net)
MP3 showed 8

and lost (-$1.63 net)

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09-05-2012 , 11:57 AM

#4621

Kralex

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If anyone is wondering, the PartyPoker zoom tables are insanely soft.

They start at NL4 tho and 6max in beta.

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09-05-2012 , 12:55 PM

#4622

LosingShark

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Originally Posted by Kralex

If anyone is wondering, the PartyPoker zoom tables are insanely soft.

They start at NL4 tho and 6max in beta.

i still think stars is soft, the regs dont adjust well and are easily exploitable. but thanks for the info will def jump on over.. do huds work the same?

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09-05-2012 , 01:08 PM

#4623

BarJerica

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nh sir. gj making them spazz when they cant have anything that beat you prett much a huge percentage of the time. Specially with that ******ed bet sizing, their hand is capped at 1pr and bluffs lol

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Originally Posted by khangura175

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.40) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.20) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Results: $8.10 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 5

Hero showed K

and won $7.74 ($3.69 net)
BB showed T

and lost (-$4.05 net)

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09-05-2012 , 01:09 PM

#4624

BarJerica

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Originally Posted by Kralex

If anyone is wondering, the PartyPoker zoom tables are insanely soft.

They start at NL4 tho and 6max in beta.

they have partypoker zoom now??? wow, I just shot myself in the foot. I got myself banned from stars and poker for calling the ******s etcetc

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09-05-2012 , 01:14 PM

#4625

Kralex

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Originally Posted by BarJerica

they have partypoker zoom now??? wow, I just shot myself in the foot. I got myself banned from stars and poker for calling the ******s etcetc

You can probably still make an account at WPT Poker.

I've just spent the last hour spinning up $25 into $54

None of the regs have any post flop ability..

Gonna grind out a $10 bonus and withdraw everything..

Starting to become a bonus whore :\

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