i might be wrong and im no pro. but if someone is nitty why would we 3b them?
it just doesnt seem right. unless they are folding to 3b like 80% +.
even if it makes our red line go up im sure our green line would go down.

Good point about nits.
If there is 5/2 nit raising preflop, you can just fold in most cases. I agree.

But yeah, if they are opening wider and either folding to 3b like 70%+ and/or calling 3bets and playing fit or fold post flop, you can exploit them. In position if possible.
If they Cb only when they hit and mostly folding other hands, you can call pre and take pot down later etc.

At least stealing a ton should work well and it really shouldn't be that hard.

I assumed he 3bet both by the way he phrased it, didnt realise he isoed a fish.

raise flop more u fish. a question... is it standard to 4b here preflop with aq? i was wondering if he was planning to 4b fold which is, in my opinion really ******ed considering his hands have good value... basically, he was 4betting to get my trashes out and keep me in with good hands.



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NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Pokerstars
SB ($5.70)
BB ($32.45)
UTG ($20.44)
UTG+1 ($21.41)
CO ($21.41)
Hero ($22.03)

Dealt to Hero A K

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, fold, CO raises to $3, Hero calls $1.60

FLOP ($6.30) A 2 T

CO bets $2.40, Hero raises to $5.40, CO calls $3

TURN ($17.10) A 2 T Q

CO checks, Hero bets $13.63 (AI), CO calls $13.01 (AI)

RIVER ($43.12) A 2 T Q 5

CO shows Q A
(Pre 29%, Flop 11.9%, Turn 68.2%)

Hero shows A K
(Pre 71%, Flop 88.1%, Turn 31.8%)

CO wins $40.97

busy at work so I only put in 2k hands last month fml.

this....

it will only make their blue and redline plunge... it's something you have to learn overtime. The value of timing and putting pieces together is what makes your redline go up. that and value betting 3 streets with hands ou think beats your opponents.

Stars has 20nl?
theres 20nl at zoom?

What is with the 330$ jump in <100hands ?

Are you tilting so hard that you move up stakes to win it back?

100plohu. I wanted to lose my money so I could focus on finding a job.

Could someone please tell me how to play against these effin tilting minraises pf when we have a decent starting hand?

Below is just the most recent example, but not seen many of these get to showdown as villain is either v aggro with it or just shuts down after the flop. Problem is, with the type of fishy player using this in Zoom I don't build up any data on what they're doing it with so have no idea if they are just a standard aggro fish, or nut peddling??!!

Cash out the rest.

Go find a job

Dunna when people do this unless I have a 4betting hand I will just look to flop something big. E.g flop a big draw with KQ or two pair, even then im not super happy because I see people min 3bet AA/KK a lot because they dont want to get folds, seems weird but they do it.

His sizing on flop looks weak but just call reevaluate turn, prob with the aim of calling down if he doesn't bomb it. Dont see the point in raising they cant really call with much worse if they are min3betin a decent value range. When he 3bets the flop he always has it. Im just looking to play pot control with a hand that has decent showdown value in them spots.

Agree with what you're saying, but also see bad villain's just clicking the raise button with any Axss or AT+, so figured could get value from SDs and FDs or AJ, hence the flop raise.

He also has a weird stack size and there are just so many ugly turn cards, just decided to go with it.

So, if villains like this are only playing KK/AA this way, then KQ effectively becomes the same as 67 or JT, and 22 plays same as JJ/QQ, so better to flat with SCs that have more playability postflop than high card combos and big pairs, if we're not just always folding pre obv.

Guess it's a case of fold pre or find out the hard way!

I think folding KQ to a 3bet OOP is fine

Also, if he does this with Axs or AT+ he'll have a high 3bet % pretty fast so if he doesn't yet it's never wrong to err on the safe side and fold 3bb instead of making an expensive mistake post

Also equity of KQ is pretty bad vs Axs+ and AT+ so calling is a no-go

Dont even know what this guy was doing, my click it back must have confused him or hes on some other level and going after value from AT

He is definitely on lvl 6 while ur measly ass is only on lvl 2

This is pretty thin but still what on earth are people doing.

AndyM - in that hand cant he turn over a set?

Yeah sometimes but he like insta snap jammed. I thought he had a weaker Q or a draw. People dont snap jam sets like that. Its still thin and folding is fine but straight away I wanted to call, think he turns over weak Qx hands and draws more often than sets for sure. If he just raised to $1.40 or something I would consider folding, his jam made it easier if anything.

yeah I'm not folding QK vs a random.

pretty much the top of your range not sure how you can fold to a spazz jam, looks like a flushdraw but even better he was on a twopair draw..

Have 2 already

Don't play poker

Ever again

You're a degen gambler

You're even playing to lose

Get some help instead of wasting your money on poker

lol



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11/7/1.6

This a fold? Raise to 1.60 fold? :\ I'd like to think its just a cooler blind vs blind but looks like a pretty avoidable situation.



This line okay? Don't really have enough hands on villain.

Hand 2 is fine.
What about 3b pre in hand 3? Bet more on flop IMO when you lead out.

Would it be a fishy thing to say I like to mix up my play with A/K depending on my position? I'll admit I'm sometimes guilty of attempting traps with bigger hands in the BB.