I really like the 15 minute levels in the party MTTs. I think the reason the tournaments run so late is because they increased the starting stacks. But because party's blind levels go up pretty quickly at the later stages, switching the 15 minute levels to 10 minute levels turns them into turboish tournaments, and I don't think that's generally a good thing.

What I would recommend doing is changing the 12.5k 50 FO to a 3K stack and keep the 15 minute levels, that would help reduce the time it takes but still keep it from ending up like a turbo. Adding a 20R or 10R earlier in the day would help too, or move the current 20R 6k guaranteed a little bit earlier, say an hour earlier and then move the current 10R 7.5k a little earlier, like an hour maybe.

Right now there's a 50R 25k, 100FO 10k, 10R 7.5k, 20R 6k, a 200FO 15k, 5R 6k (turbo), 10R 10k (turbo) all within an hour or so of each other. I feel like spreading out those tournaments would be beneficial, they are so bunched and there's nothing an hour earlier. There's a 20 FO 5k guaranteed, and the time between 1 eastern and 2 eastern is a "dead zone." There's a couple turbos and a 10 FO but basically very little going on in this hour.

I think moving some of the existing schedule into that dead zone and/or adding another tournament in the 10-20R or 20-50FO in that time area would be great for the schedule. I also think this would be beneficial to hitting your guarantees, since that is the beginning of prime time in the EU and there's basically an hour that isn't really covered by much activity.

Also, another point, is the structures earlier in the day, tend to be 10 minute levels and the ones later in the day are 15 minute levels. This is what's creating a bit of a scheduling conflict to those who play your entire schedule. You essentially have very fast paced "semi turbo" type tournaments earlier in the day, mostly with lower buyins, then the schedule is largely 15 minute levels with deep stacks (this is good). Please don't take away the 15 minute levels and deep stack nature of these tournaments. But consider the schedule from the perspective of a player, and how the tournaments flow and intersect with each other.

You, ideally, want a similar group of tournaments to end at around the same time, that way if people (be it casuals, or professionals) want to play a group of tournaments, they can play a group and have them end at a somewhat similar time. Here's an example: if I want to play the 50R 25k, 10R 7.5k, 100 FO 10k, 20R 6k and 50FO 12.5k, a very large percentage of the time I am going to be stuck on that 50FO bored because that one runs latest in the day, but tends to have far more runners than the 20R that starts 45 minute before it, and has a 5k starting stack with 15 minute levels. So unless I want to commit an extra 90-120 minutes to my session, playing that 12.5k 50FO is not a good idea - it starts 45 minutes later than the 20R and runs much longer/slower. It would be helpful if that tournament was switched to either a 3k starting stack or 12 minute levels (please, please, don't do 10 unless you add more levels, compared to other sites party already has a large gap between blind levels later on).

For payouts, I think 15% paid with a little bit more tilted to the top is good. I actually don't hate the current pay system as much as others since it lowers variance, but I do think in your 4k-5k guaranteed level tournaments, you want a sexy 4 figure first prize. Seeing a 4-5k guaranteed tournament with a piddly 700-900 dollar first prize is something that I think you should change, and should engineer your payout systems so that you get a 4 figure prize. I think that adds a certain level of appeal for everyone playing.

party should really stop paying top 20% in big buy in tournaments...if you want to pay 20% in a 10+1 tournament thats reasonable, but doing so in a 50r or a 200 where you have a lot of professionals/people who want to play for big amounts of money seems silly...I also think the turbos turn a lot of customers off whether they're recreational or not - people want to play poker, not a 15 bb shovefest

Sure it will looooooooooool

12 min and add 2 levels?

Change turbos to 6 mins.

no

Where are these casual cash game tables? I've checked entire lobby twice and see nothing.

You got nothing in between $20 and $100 turbos. Add a few $50 turbos.

I just noticed my hand history setting has been looking like that for a long time, yet I got my hand histories of the past 3 days in my partypoker folder. Also PokerTracker always retrieved the hands if I used it.

What's the point of that setting if hands are stored either way?

Why is adding 50 turbos 'such a terrible idea' that you 'can't even comprehend asking for them'?

300-400 bi swings? I've never experienced that in my whole 5 year MTT career. Not even nearly. Let's take the low end of your estimate at 300. 300x50 is 15000. Who is having 15k swings at Party's small field MTTs? It's feasible at Stars. Barely. At fields 20x the size with exponential variance.

It's easy to 'comprehend'.

I would prefer slower 50s though obviously, like yourself.

That's pretty amazing if your biggest downswing over 5 years is ~150 buyins.

It's not amazing. With field sizes of lets say 250 which is way bigger than most of Partys 50s then max swing with someone of a 25% ROI shouldnt be more than 4 or 5k at the absolute worst. Fwiw my ROI is higher and the fields are almost always smaller so there's nothing amazing about it.

I was simulating swings for PS 180mans recently - I took some typical finish distribution for a 25%-26% ROI player, made 10k "clones" of such players and made them "play" 20k/100k games and was watching for worst swings. The average worst swing for the 20k sample was 235bi, and the swings were ranging from 150bi to 350bi. With 250 players, swings should be a bit bigger than that (if somebody is interested, just send me a finish distribution and according payouts and I can simulate it for you, I also did different ROIs for 180mans, HT HU, am going to do 10man SnGs etc etc).

Here is the article with more data (in czech language, but its mostly tables with numbers so you should be able to follow it with google translator): http://www.pokerarena.cz/rubriky/str...i-25_6877.html

I used the pokerdope sim.

The 50 turbos that ran before were like 60-100 runners and fishy anyway. Stars is a totally different animal.

But Pokerdope automatically assumes that you finish in each paid spot with equal probability (thats why you have to input ROI and not not the whole finish distribution) and this underestimates the swings - unless you are the type of player how mincashes frequently. I like Pokerdope otherwise, but this led me to simulate swings myself.

If you want to simulate higher ROI/different field size etc I can do it, its very easy, just give me some finish distribution,buyin and payouts and we can look what swings to expect in the PP setting.

Hi,

Some advance warning - we will release the next version of our poker software next week which will result in a period of downtime. This will start at 22:00 ET on 26 May. Prior to this there will be a reduced MTT schedule.

For a full run down of the new features and fixes, check the software updates page on Monday.

Thanks,
Paul

Completely skipped over the big concern the vast majority have over the casual tables?

Party_Rep / Paul,

You have been more active lately with answering our questions and it is greatly appreciated. You did miss some (imo important ones) so I have compiled them to you here.

Your answer/comment to these would be appreciated.

What is the timeframe for this? I can't honestly believe it was an accident that the one click lobby directs people to casual cash game tables only. I think it was clearly intented but I'm willing to change that view if you come back with a clear timetable as to when it will be changed.

have my HH setting on the max to no avail. They just get deleted after a week......

Also, why is a ticket to the sunday 200k so expensive in the store compared to other $200 tourney tickets? 4500 points for silver and 3600 points for gold when a ticket to the 30k guaranteed is 2300 respectively 2000 points?

Will these tickets ever be available on WPT skin? What is going with WPT in general? It still has the old software etc.

Can someone finally answer this please ??

Why does WPT not get the same, or even remotely similar promotions as Bwin/Party ??

on pokerfest #4 triple chance 2 rebuys only, lost all my chips and had one rebuy more but despite pressing button normally, got a message wait your action processed or something and boom! never done it and out of tourney! what can i say this site is a joke...

frama, you suck too much to have had a chance. don't worry.. lol jk party software is mediocre.. but i enjoy the .50/1.00 plo.

How can i view the pokerfest schedule on partypoker.com via my ipad? It just reverts to the mobile site. That mobile site is awful and needs a lot of work.

It would be nice to play tournaments from my mobile device vs. only cash games.

Any chance of this in the future?