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11-06-2013 , 08:18 PM
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Hello, is it still possible to buy the multiple Tourney Tickets for PartyPoints and play SNGs with them?

Thanks

anyone?
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11-06-2013 , 08:36 PM
Same joke going on at 5/10 today. Bunch of standard regs who insta sit out when the rec player sits out.

Also it's getting so bad now trying to start tables at 5/10 now with all the mega bumhunters taking a seat and sitting out repeatedly. They simply rejoin any new table that has 1 person when the previous tables close. So you end up with 4/6 people sitting out at 10+ tables.

I try to start tables daily but it's becoming impossible with all the campers. PartyRep and Jeff, what is your plan fix the problem? If you want to improve the environment for recreational players and allow players who want to play and start tables effectively then you need to stop all this sit out camping going on by the bumhunters.


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11-06-2013 , 08:54 PM
I suggest we cooperatively sit-out block every single table we can just to make a point of how ******ed it is. If they had 20 games full, and none actually running, surely they would have to notice something?
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11-06-2013 , 10:09 PM
can you just perma ban all bumhunters and take all their money including those 300 hu table scums that pretend to play poker

we're happy cuz theyre banned
rec players are playing in a natural environnement which means theyre gonna last longer so they're happy
and youre happy cuz you got their money


just do it plz
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11-07-2013 , 12:12 AM
Ive won a Ps4 added tournament. How do I collect?
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11-07-2013 , 12:14 AM
How does everyone find Party Poker these days? Used to be fairly active at PP back in 2010, but moved to Pokerstars because of the hype surrounding it.

For someone looking to play microstakes, would you guys recommend PP?
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11-07-2013 , 12:36 AM
Have you read any of the thread brah?
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11-07-2013 , 01:04 AM
I've read the last 5 pages or so.
Apart from massive amounts of lag (which shouldn't be an issue for someone playing 2 - 4 tables I presume?), and a massive amount of bumhunting at the higher stakes, there doesn't seem to be many answers for the questions I'm wondering.

Like, how does the rake compare in microstakes between Party Poker and Pokerstars at 10NL? Cashout times? Is there still a player pool segregation in place? How easy is multitabling with the current software?

There's a lot of questions I have that I'm interested in knowing prior to depositing money. I'm sorry if a number of questions (possibly uninformed, too) may annoy you.
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11-07-2013 , 02:07 AM
The short answer is not yet. Jeffrey Haas has to first figure out how to reverse the huge negative goodwill bwin.party created in the poker community. For example, he has to improve the Point Store such as reinstating cash bonuses or increasing rakeback without being enslaved by Party forever.
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For someone looking to play microstakes, would you guys recommend PP?
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11-07-2013 , 03:55 AM
I just cannot see one reason to not implement the "sitout 1 - sitout all" feature.

And on a different note why does partypoker not respond to emails? I have a problem with my goplay prepaid card (it never worked actually) ... I have written 4 emails to my vip-team (lol) since mid of september and not received a single response. Does anyone from party even read this thread?
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11-07-2013 , 04:05 AM
I'm playing 9-12 tables and i have freezes a lot. Also login and password are not saved.
Software has been stable for the last.
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11-07-2013 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wodka
I just cannot see one reason to not implement the "sitout 1 - sitout all" feature.
It sounds like a good feature, but what about when you want to play out the orbit after paying your BB? If you sit-out at one table where you've played your orbit, should your other tables have you automatically sit out too if your intent is to play out that orbit? I don't think so. But, unfortunately, if that's the case then I can see ways it could be abused since you could then theoretically sit out at one table while playing the others (and unchecking "Sit out next BB" or something).
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11-07-2013 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OlyBrah
It sounds like a good feature, but what about when you want to play out the orbit after paying your BB? If you sit-out at one table where you've played your orbit, should your other tables have you automatically sit out too if your intent is to play out that orbit? I don't think so. But, unfortunately, if that's the case then I can see ways it could be abused since you could then theoretically sit out at one table while playing the others (and unchecking "Sit out next BB" or something).
then maybe this could be solved this way: You have one global sitout button which makes you sitout on all tables (once you have to go to the toilet or smth) and one button "sitout next bb and leave". So if you just want to finish the orbit and leave the table you use this option. Afterwards you are blocked for this table for x minutes.
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11-07-2013 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wodka
then maybe this could be solved this way: You have one global sitout button which makes you sitout on all tables (once you have to go to the toilet or smth) and one button "sitout next bb and leave". So if you just want to finish the orbit and leave the table you use this option. Afterwards you are blocked for this table for x minutes.
That sounds like the best system we could have Party implement without the possibility for abuse.

Party Poker, implement this please.
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11-07-2013 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnybob123
I suggest we cooperatively sit-out block every single table we can just to make a point of how ******ed it is. If they had 20 games full, and none actually running, surely they would have to notice something?
+1. We also have a ready thread to protest.

This 1 of the main reasons to do this. Because they really dont care. There is a guy: aurelianus. I send to party 15 times his SC, HH and all proofs of his scumy behavior. Now its like 2 years gone and he still doing this. But party always reply with:

Thank you. Info has been forwarded to our investigation team.
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11-07-2013 , 06:45 AM
I had so many (first-time) partyclient-issues yesterday, I punched my ****in wall and threw my mouse out of the window in the middle of the night (two things I never did before^^, thx for the last update, party)

It froze 4 times (not like it used to be for me, freeze --> est. conn. etc, but freeze --> having to shut down the client manually), the client closed itself 2 times for no reason, it failed multiple times to display the cards (could only see one card at times lol, tricky...), I timed out several times and didnt get the "I'm back" button, so auto folded KK pre with 8 BBs on the bubble and ****. BUT the icing on the cake was the client somehow trying to mash up two hands into one

action was on me, player to my right shoved, couldnt see my cards, at the same time sb & bb were at showdown and bb was sb and utg was bb simultaneously. I mean seriously.......how is this even possible ffs? sooo weird
I took a screenshot, if someone is interested.
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11-07-2013 , 07:08 AM
yeah, post the screen shot, the more info here on the bugs, the better.

+ 100 on having to fold KK with 8bb on the bubble : it is such a tilting experience.

And I will ask the Party Rep again : what is the long term plan for the regs on Party?
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11-07-2013 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IoNlYsAyThInGsOnCe
I had so many (first-time) partyclient-issues yesterday, I punched my ****in wall and threw my mouse out of the window in the middle of the night (two things I never did before^^, thx for the last update, party)

It froze 4 times (not like it used to be for me, freeze --> est. conn. etc, but freeze --> having to shut down the client manually), the client closed itself 2 times for no reason, it failed multiple times to display the cards (could only see one card at times lol, tricky...), I timed out several times and didnt get the "I'm back" button, so auto folded KK pre with 8 BBs on the bubble and ****. BUT the icing on the cake was the client somehow trying to mash up two hands into one

action was on me, player to my right shoved, couldnt see my cards, at the same time sb & bb were at showdown and bb was sb and utg was bb simultaneously. I mean seriously.......how is this even possible ffs? sooo weird
I took a screenshot, if someone is interested.
Party Poker was informed about this bug like 3-4 weeks ago and did nothing to fix it.
I myself sent them on 27. detailed e-mail with the freezes even played without any tool to record the freezing issue and send them recorded video with the issue (separated so I could proof that it was client issue not any other tool like HM or TN interfering with the client ). Have been waiting 2 weeks for the answer

The thing is that my current balance is already 0 and I am done so no longer care. Just funny how people still post here about the bugs. If you want to have bugs fixed and company listening to its customers go play on Stars or FTP or even 888.

Now the bwin team is in charge. does any of you remember the P5 how it worked for first couple of years ??
It is the same here same incompetent IT monkey and their ZOO. The problems are even the same as it used to be with P5 so random crashes and freezes .
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11-07-2013 , 10:52 AM
Hi all,

I'm Paul, and I work in the bwin.party poker team. I'm going to be following-up on many of the issues posted here recently, and checking in approximately weekly. I will not be reviewing the entirety of the 10K+ posts (!) in this thread, but have seen a few recent summaries that I am using as the basis for my work and will follow the discussion moving forward. In many cases, I don’t yet have answers to your questions, but have started internal threads with my colleagues to get them.

The usual disclaimers apply: that we are a publicly-traded company and as such there will always be some information we cannot share; and that there are some sensitive topics (i.e. specific game security concerns) that we won’t talk about publicly. There will also clearly be some latency on responses to your queries here, so I strongly encourage you to contact our Customer Support team at [email protected] for the fastest response times (and anything to do with your own accounts – as I won’t address that here).

Now on to this week’s update. It’s a follow-up to our last post, and also provides some insights into other questions raised here.


Payments

There have been concerns in recent days about delays with cashouts. In short, there are no issues. Some requests are always handled manually which takes a bit longer. We did experience a bit of a build-up in that queue but that build-up has since been cleared.


3% fee for certain withdrawal methods

For the time being, this will not change. There are numerous withdrawal methods available to players at lower cost or no cost, and we encourage players to consider them. Please ask Customer Support ([email protected]) if you would like to know what specific options we have available to you. A business decision has been made to introduce this fee and that’s where we are. Like all decisions, it’s constantly up for discussion.


Value of VIP offers in store

On April 1 2013 we made some changes, like removing Palladium Elite and cash bonuses from the store, that have, as people here have noted, reduced the maximum value of loyalty points for some players. This is the first stage of an overhaul of our loyalty offer. It had previously been possible to get up to 80% rakeback off store-bought bonuses and this wasn’t sustainable for us as a business. Following these changes the maximum rakeback has been reduced to around 30% once bought for the time being. Details of further changes (which will happen) will be revealed when they're due for release.


Software performance issues

We are aware of the issues many of you are experiencing, and working to address them. We expect to release an updated client later this month that will resolve many of them. More specific details about this to follow in a few weeks’ time.


New MT SNG Structure

Here is our new structure for MT SNGs. We’d welcome your feedback.




Rebuy Functionality

We agree that this needs looking at and have been working on an auto add-on function. We hope to have more information on when this will be released soon. We will also be making the add-on option easier to find during the add-on period.


No-download client issue

As part of the latest Java update (version 7 update 45) released, there were some security fixes that impacted the way in which our no download (Java) poker client communicated. To address these communication issues we needed to deploy an updated client, which also required all players to upgrade to the latest version. This was done on October 25.


On Protected Tables

Thank you for your mostly-positive reactions to our last post. That said, we do want to address the suggestion here that our sole intent is to replace Protected Tables with a version of Protected Tables that can’t be exploited. To assume that is to not really hear what we wrote. Our goal is to maximize entertainment in our poker rooms. That’s it. Since losing money, by default, is a negative experience, it can have and often does have a negative impact on players’ sense of enjoyment. As such, how he/she fares – particularly when first getting started on our tables – matters. But that is just one of many variables. Who loses to who/when/where is utterly secondary to the question of who had a fulfilling and FUN time playing what/when/where. To make games more fun for more people is our ultimate goal. Nothing else.

As mentioned, I will check back in weekly and provide further updates where possible.

Good luck at the tables!

Paul

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Edit/MH: See also http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=13100

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11-07-2013 , 11:35 AM
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On April 1 2013 we made some changes, like removing Palladium Elite and cash bonuses from the store, that have, as people here have noted, reduced the maximum value of loyalty points for some players. This is the first stage of an overhaul of our loyalty offer. It had previously been possible to get up to 80% rakeback off store-bought bonuses and this wasn’t sustainable for us as a business. Following these changes the maximum rakeback has been reduced to around 30% once bought for the time being. Details of further changes (which will happen) will be revealed when they're due for release.
Oh great. Can't wait to see how we get ****ed over next.

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It had previously been possible to get up to 80% rakeback off store-bought bonuses and this wasn’t sustainable for us as a business
Yeah, impossible to imagine how you could survive only raking $2000 a month off me instead of $7000. Liars.

In any case, the issue now is that it takes 5000 points to clear a bonus that we paid 10,000 points for. So really you're offering zero rakeback, just an endless treadmill.

Stop feeding us bull**** and telling us it's ice cream. If there are further changes to the VIP program planned, let us know in advance instead of being scumbags.

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11-07-2013 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
Just funny how people still post here about the bugs.
i posted about the freezing-issue, because I NEVER had it before, so they obv changed something for the worse AGAIN, it's just one big ****in level... that was my point

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11-07-2013 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IoNlYsAyThInGsOnCe
i posted about the freezing-issue, because I NEVER had it before, so they obv changed something for the worse AGAIN, it's just one big ****in level... that was my point
No ,no I understand didn't want to be rude. Just bwin.party isn't like a normal company and they just don't care. I reported that particular freezing issue sever times to them made screenshots,recorded vids etc. talked couple of times via chat and it still hasn't been solved not mention that they don't even consider reimbursing our loses cause thats how they operate.

I mean I uderstand your frustration and your concerns but you post on 2+2 same as me so I guess you are "Shamlees Reg" and bwin.party doesn't consider us as as their customers more like rats that they desperately try to get rid of. If you win you are no longer welcome on bwin.party and thats been like that for a while.

So my point was just that you shouldn't bother because it will only increase your frustration and you won't achieve anything. Watching porn is more productive that talking with party support/trying to solve problems with them.
If you want to be treated like a customer and get some help you should just stop playing on Party...
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11-07-2013 , 12:01 PM
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Value of VIP offers in store

On April 1 2013 we made some changes, like removing Palladium Elite and cash bonuses from the store, that have, as people here have noted, reduced the maximum value of loyalty points for some players. This is the first stage of an overhaul of our loyalty offer. It had previously been possible to get up to 80% rakeback off store-bought bonuses and this wasn’t sustainable for us as a business. Following these changes the maximum rakeback has been reduced to around 30% once bought for the time being. Details of further changes (which will happen) will be revealed when they're due for release.
Hello Paul,

What does this mean? Is VIP program going to offer even less value for VIP players in the future than now? Is it going to, on the other hand, improve?

Do you guys think it is positive to notify VIP program changes only when they are applied, and not in advance?
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11-07-2013 , 12:15 PM
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To make games more fun for more people is our ultimate goal. Nothing else.


Call.
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11-07-2013 , 12:26 PM
What about the bots that are not posting blinds and play for free? Those have been reported countless times in the last 6+ months and they're still there (different nicks though).

They open tables across few stakes and insta sitout whoever joins the table. Once third player sits in, they insta sit back and play if they recieve Button; otherwise leave. I tried to sit as the third player and insta sit out & sit in and they responded immediately (also sit in&out obv). PokerStars banned well known highstakes player for "stealing buttons" even though he was legitimate player otherwise. You have obvious bots here which don't play any poker at all and are just stealing money from other players (recs too ofc) and there's no action against them?

I'm talking about:
  • n0verTheRainb0W
  • W0nS0mELITLe

Here're the screenshots from my database to give you better picture:



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