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10-31-2013 , 06:02 PM
Wanted to post something ironic given how Jeffrey still pretend that segregation was a success (hey you only lost like 50% of the player base but some people were playing more,yay!!!). Guess it just doesn't matter anymore given that you strip off the segregation so no point in discussing a dead horse.

Curious about the statement that no more sneaky changes and promise of informing players about the changes. I mean does it meant that you are satisified with how much you taken from players by scumming them on bonuses, fees, etc. and for a while it is enough??

Anyway I am done with your site. I wish you all will repeat in bwin.party your ongame network success. Keep up the good work!

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10-31-2013 , 06:09 PM
it sounds "good", but partypoker losts its faith.. and the trust...

and so. have to say "sorry", but I still hope, that your pokerroom/page will die.

I never would play again on partypoker and I say this everytime if someone says, that he wants to play on partypoker.
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10-31-2013 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by poker tatsu ni
[*]Protected Tables were removed on 31 Oct 2013[*]PartyPoker promises to improve communication, and somebody from the poker team will be posting at least weekly - starting next week
Thanks for the long post Jeffrey and great news that the segregated tables are gone. Will look forward to the weekly updates itt, hopefully they focus on the other issues raised
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10-31-2013 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by poker tatsu ni
Hi All

[...]
  1. Really long post about only 1 topic
  2. Protected Tables (AKA Segregated Tables) first appeared 23 Feb 2013
  3. Protected Tables were removed on 31 Oct 2013
  4. PartyPoker promises to improve communication, and somebody from the poker team will be posting at least weekly - starting next week
Thank you for your post. Finally.

Looking forward more posts from your team, the sooner the better, addresing other issues which have not been covered yet.
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10-31-2013 , 07:18 PM
Thanks for the post. Really wished you guys would have posted something like this earlier. Unfortunately A LOT of damage has been done. I've loved and trusted this site for years, but you guys are going to have to do a lot of patchwork to regain the trust I've had, and many others have had.

Whenever there are new tournament schedules or promos or anything intended to generate more traffic, we are sure to hear about it. In the software, on the party poker site, in our email boxes.

But anything negative to hear about the site - it's never posted anywhere. Only is it discovered through numerous speculations. Removal of high stakes, removal of palladium elite, subtle changes in bonus reward schemes, the segregation. None of these topics were mentioned anywhere on the site, in our email boxes, no where. Only in forums where many are going to miss the post if they aren't following regularly.

Many grinders were extremely displeased with the removal of Palladium Elite and how they weren't given sufficient time to be informed. Can't help but feel like there was a strategical element in the timing of releasing this information.

I really appreciate that you guys are acknowledging the lack of transparency in communication. This is the main reason why I and so many others have lost a lot of faith in this site. I really hope that from this point on something like this never happens again.
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10-31-2013 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnybob123
Many grinders were extremely displeased with the removal of Palladium Elite and how they weren't given sufficient time to be informed. Can't help but feel like there was a strategical element in the timing of releasing this information.
I need to react to this: PartyPoker DID NOT reveal the information intentionally! It was posted on their German mutation by mistake, so we would probably be informed MUCH later about upcoming changes what would cause much worse damage to our bottom line. Like was intended by bwin.party obviously.
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10-31-2013 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikemilkncookies
it sounds "good", but partypoker losts its faith.. and the trust...

and so. have to say "sorry", but I still hope, that your pokerroom/page will die.
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This, you guys ****ed up BIG.

You are still ****ing people right over now as we type
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10-31-2013 , 09:19 PM
great, now fix mtt's.

- 9 handed and 6 handed mtt's
- Make dealing possible in both rebuys and freezeout's
- No ridicilous hand for hand by each payjump, just at the standard bubble and ft bubble please
-Start the bubble with 1 left, and not 2
- Auto add on and auto rebuy
- Create some kind of better search/filter function for tournaments (for example, where you could type in the buy in just like on stars)
- fix the player search function
- might create some new blind levels past 750/1500. just a suggestion:

600/1200
750/1500
1000/2000
1200/2400
1500/3000
1750/3500
2000/4000
2500/5000
3000/6000
3500/7000
4000/8000
4500/9000
5000/10000

etc

Just, for this one time, listen to your costumers and don't bury your heads in the sand!
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10-31-2013 , 11:42 PM
#1 priority should be fixing the client just stopping randomly, seems to happen at least once every 1-2k hands for me. i have to close the program from taskmgr and restart

extremely annoying, and maybe only happened once every 30-40k hands in the old software.
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11-01-2013 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dannyr
#1 priority should be fixing the client just stopping randomly, seems to happen at least once every 1-2k hands for me. i have to close the program from taskmgr and restart

extremely annoying, and maybe only happened once every 30-40k hands in the old software.

Agree !
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11-01-2013 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by poker tatsu ni
6. As of 30 minutes ago, the limited tables that lie at the heart of this conflict will be removed. Not because the intention behind them has changed, but because the feature no longer serves a valid purpose if it is abused and manipulated. Before anyone shouts "well you’ve handed them a victory on a plate by removing these tables," you can expect us to produce something new to bring about a sensible and healthy balance in our poker ecology – and, for good measure, we’ll tell you the ‘what’, the ‘when’, ‘why’ and ‘how’ behind our thinking: with my arrival I can safely say that the 'run silent, run deep' approach has been scrapped for good.
Yes, we understand, Jeffrey. Regs aren't allowed to win on Party. Not even debates.

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Protected Tables (AKA Segregated Tables) first appeared 23 Feb 2013
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=8734

2+2 != 4
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11-01-2013 , 04:27 AM
Thx Jeffrey, this is the first time I felt good about Party Poker in 6 months (now if I can only get my withdrawal approved, we would be rolling...).
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11-01-2013 , 06:16 AM
Wonderful post Jeffrey. We cant say everything is forgotten but certainly everything is not lost yet. The Audacity of hope!!

Onwards and upwards Jeffrey's Party!!
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11-01-2013 , 06:20 AM
I don't see a single reason to be overjoyed: they promised better communication before and haven't given a **** since then and segregation failed because of exploitation so they finally decided to cancel it (before they come up with something more sophisticated).

Although I like what is promised, this nicely written PR post doesn't solve anything but segregation; temporarily.

edit: nice catch Lessu!
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11-01-2013 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by opal
I don't see a single reason to be overjoyed: they promised better communication before and haven't given a **** since then and segregation failed because of exploitation so they finally decided to cancel it (before they come up with something more sophisticated).

Although I like what is promised, this nicely written PR post doesn't solve anything but segregation; temporarily.

edit: nice catch Lessu!
Honestly I believe that they nicely played it with this scum.
They made several awful changes for regulars (segregation, getting rid of anything higher than 5/10, removing paladium elite, bonuses scam (this one 2. already) ).

So after ton of pressure they get of rid of one of the changes(segegation)
Now everyone seems to be like "yeah hurray no more segregation!!". How about everything else they did this year??
Basically they managed to establish a way better equlibrium (better for them not for the players) .

and +1 for Lessu for the nice catch
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11-01-2013 , 07:23 AM
is it impos to invite people to your tables now?
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11-01-2013 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
This is just insane. Clearly that they arent telling us the truth. As Always!

And what about the segregation? IT ISNT OVER. It will just come out in another form to avoid abusing. But we all know how good programmers partypoker have. They will screw it again. 110 % sure... :-(

Its pretty scary to see how easy it is to manipulate poker players.
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11-01-2013 , 07:48 AM
yeah hurray no more segregation!!

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11-01-2013 , 08:41 AM
And we even have an update today
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11-01-2013 , 08:49 AM
Just got my withdrawal approved. As far as segregation being dismantled for now, this is the first good news we had in 6 months. And if we do have a Party rep coming here to communicate with us every week, it shows some sort of willingness on their part.

Do not get me wrong : I am by no means forgetting everything that was done to the regs this year, but will still give them a chance to be more transparent with us and take it from there.
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11-01-2013 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Craggoo
showing your true color
yes, sure, because they've removed these tables for the wrong reason.

Not, because the idea behind is incredible dumb. They've removed it because
some players r able to exploit the gap/space in the system "protected tables".

They show nooooooooooooooo discretion !!!!! They only do it, because
some players can also make profit and cashout.!!!!!!!!


and look at the quote in the post over mine. removed the segreating of the playerpools ? maybe temporarelly

I never trust them again.

So.. sitout.. cashout and bring them down to earth. So thats a future-warning for other sites, that
they cant hose/hoax the player-community.

U have to think about. They did all what they did in the past without pre-info for the players !! no mail, no popup, no info at their page, nothing !! and u would trust them again after one representative wrote some lines into a forum? maybe u should take the $-signs out of your eyes and think logically

u have to know.. partypoker-bwin.... its just a profit-orientated-firm.

The disadvantage for us (players) - its marked-listed !! a short thinking company and so they try everything to
increase the profit. And theyve an/a incompetent management/decision maker.
They only think about how they can generate/earn max.profit in short period.

so u have to think about. If their old-plan would have success, they wouldnt change anything.
I'm sure they would change another things, so thats more and more a +-0 game for the players.

look at their software

the layout/style is itunes'like
the symbol is pokerstars'like
these sidekicks r pokerstrategy-sidekicks'like (in gibraltar they r in the same building, so I think they've paid for this product a good price to pokerstrategy)

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11-01-2013 , 09:09 AM
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And we even have an update today
just tried to sign in an "partygaming" took up an average of 90% of my cpu. freezing my machine and rendering all sites unplayable. was playing on 4 sites yesterday (including party) with no performance issues. this was just trying to sign in, not even playing any tables.
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11-01-2013 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
great, now fix mtt's.

- 9 handed and 6 handed mtt's
- Make dealing possible in both rebuys and freezeout's
- No ridicilous hand for hand by each payjump, just at the standard bubble and ft bubble please
-Start the bubble with 1 left, and not 2
- Auto add on and auto rebuy
- Create some kind of better search/filter function for tournaments (for example, where you could type in the buy in just like on stars)
- fix the player search function
- might create some new blind levels past 750/1500. just a suggestion:

600/1200
750/1500
1000/2000
1200/2400
1500/3000
1750/3500
2000/4000
2500/5000
3000/6000
3500/7000
4000/8000
4500/9000
5000/10000

etc

Just, for this one time, listen to your costumers and don't bury your heads in the sand!
+250124578965
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11-01-2013 , 09:23 AM
I am glad to see that you want to make things better and improve communication.
I have a hard time trusting you though after the things you've done lately and I wouldn't start playing there.

I do hope you are sincere because Stars really needs some competition because right now they're way ahead of everyone else.
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11-01-2013 , 09:50 AM
Jeffrey says the segregated tables are gone, so that's that. We can all trust an official representative of Party/Bwin to be upholding the highest standards of honesty and fairness when dealing with their customers. I mean that's what Party/Bwin has taught us all this year right? That they're a company to be respected and trusted?

I mean look what happened when CEREUS/ULTIMATE BET brought in Joe Sebok to lend some credibility. It transformed them overnight into a completely legitimate operation....oh wait...never mind.
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