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01-27-2014 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Chemango
Well, this is pretty much it. If they refuse to give me the ticket back then I'm leaving party poker and heading to Pokerstars!

Especially since they've screwed up the schedule for me at work with all these hyper and turbo, guess this is probably a good reason to just drop them entirely.
Imagine : your words echo the 100s of people that feel the same resentment but do not post here...
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01-27-2014 , 02:51 AM
Party Rep,

Remarkably, only OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread is completely filled with curses and angry messages to the PP. Why do not you realize that if PP want to stop losing a traffic you should start listening to customers.

Improvement mtt situation should be your priority, cause mtt attracts most of the new players:
- more 15min gtd mtt from $5, more than it was before the recent changes
- auto-addon
- payouts structure
- blinds structure (add level 100/200 WITHOUT ante)
- and finally fix your lagging outdated software
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01-27-2014 , 03:05 AM
Yesterdays Gtd have become regular plo mtt, becoming less and less motivated to even play at party.
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01-27-2014 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by grrandy
Party Rep,

Remarkably, only OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread is completely filled with curses and angry messages to the PP. Why do not you realize that if PP want to stop losing a traffic you should start listening to customers.
Good point. I wonder if upper management goes to read the other official site threads... And agree that this is laughable by the lack of communication or when Party Rep does reply, he simply ignores all the angst/suggestions. And yes the payout is ludicrous ; don't mind balancing more the prize money, but not for 20% of the field.
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01-27-2014 , 03:27 AM
I agree with the many negative sentiments regarding the new changes.

Paying out 18-24% of the field is nuts. I agree that balancing out the payout structure is a good thing but only 12-15% MAX of the field should finish itm imho.

I think 1-3 place should still payout a higher percentage. (the whole FT really)

I actually preferred 10 handed, but from what I've read here most of you disagree.

I'm also not a fan of the huge extended buy in period in some of the new tourneys, ie 10 min blinds, buy in for 10 levels...? A bit excessive I think

AUTO ADD ON!!!!!! (seriously, WTF)

And yeah, PP is the laggiest of all the poker software I've ever used, please work on that.

As for the most recent software issue - I called PP after spending the entire day frustrated that I couldn't even open the main lobby while playing or I would crash the software.

I was advised to completely delete the program and reinstall (uninstall and then manually delete the remaining files in C: program files/partygaming.) After reinstalling the software is running without issues. (if you want to save your notes, copy the notepad file in folder partypoker)

I had the same problem with PP software using up too much CPU before the reinstall, not afterwards.

I've noticed that there is no longer hand for hand play after the bubble for every pay bump - excellent! That was really frustrating before, good improvement.

Also, glad to see some of the old MTTs back on the schedule(and some additional new ones) but we really need more in the 2-20$ range - the new 10c and 20c tourneys are a waste of lobby space imo.

Last edited by ujarion; 01-27-2014 at 03:43 AM.
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01-27-2014 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Fwiw Party has a cheap contract with Indian software suppliers. Once upon a time, about a year ago(it's actually detailed in this thread(or last years)), somebody spoke to Party VIP over the phone and they said that cost of new software is so big that its not cost effective.

Poker software ain't cheap
Yes, even tho the original program was build long ago without any big funds, for some reason it would cost them millions these days.
Imo they could have hired programmers like Like_AA from PartyCaption to remove some bugs with 3rd party software.

/morning rant
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01-27-2014 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ujarion
I agree with the many negative sentiments regarding the new changes.

Paying out 18-24% of the field is nuts. I agree that balancing out the payout structure is a good thing but only 12-15% MAX of the field should finish itm imho.
The only time I do not mind this actual payout, is for higher buy-ins like 50$+, where a min cash gets you at least twice your entry fee. Problem is, Party got rid of all the decent mid buy-ins of 50-100$ in between 3:00-14:00 est, the hours I play.

So all things concluded, the new schedule does suck balls, but are they going to fix it? Are they going to bring back some mid buy-ins, some decent 11$ rebuys? Or simply let us play elsewhere? I think they want us elsewhere.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-27-2014 at 01:04 PM.
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01-27-2014 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
Yes, even tho the original program was build long ago without any big funds, for some reason it would cost them millions these days.
Imo they could have hired programmers like Like_AA from PartyCaption to remove some bugs with 3rd party software.

/morning rant
Yes. The problem most likely is that they built the software quick and dirty back in the days without any sourcecode documentation or the like. During all the years they patched the code with all kinds of new features and bugfixes. This code is probably a huge mess now and I really don't envy the guys that have to maintain this software. Otherwise I can't explain why they are not able to make a stable release at all.

Best solution would be to rebuild this thing from scratch with sound documentation and solid testing. Ideally the players wouldn't even recognize the difference from the looks but only because there are no more crashes, etc
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01-27-2014 , 05:27 AM
Hi,

We have made some further changes to the schedule based on your feedback.


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Originally Posted by dustyn
Some feedback:

From 14:00-16:00 eastern there used to be a bunch of tournies, from the 6R, 11R, the 165FO 50R, 22R, 54FO, and a couple of others. It seems now this is basically a dead zone in the schedule, comparatively, with far fewer offerings. There are a decent number of regular tournies in the 2-3 hours before that (less than before though), but this time in particular is pretty dead in the schedule for a non turbo player. Please consider adding in a few tournies at the 10R/25FO level that aren't turbos or hypers in that period.
The $5R @ 14:00 and $20R @ 15:15 have been reinstated. The $54FO $8k GTD @ 1600 has been replaced with the improved $50FO $12k GTD also @ 1600.


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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
also few cool mtt's got removed, the 20r and 108fo
Some good changes, but unfortunately some unnecesary bad ones as well
The $20R @ 15:15 and $100 FO @ 16:15 have been reinstated.



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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Did Party just cancel all the early morning higher buy in tournaments! Like both 54$, both 33$, all 3 11$ rebuys as well as the 33$ rebuy!!!
The $10R @ 06:45 has been reinstated.



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Originally Posted by centebakkie
I would still like those $2 plo rebuy back but I'll adjust again as usual.
The $2 PLO R @ 15:45 has been reinstated.


In summary, we’ve reinstated the following tournaments:

$10R @ 06:45
$5R @ 14:00
$108 FO @ 14:30
$20R @ 15:15
$2 PLO R @ 15:45
$100 FO @ 16:15

In addition, as I mentioned yesterday, we have switched over 20 guaranteed tournaments from Hyper Turbo format to Regular format with a 15 minute clock and have also switched all of the Majors tournaments with a buy-in of $5 or more from a 10 minute clock to a 15 minute clock.

We’re continuing to monitor and review the schedule and will continue to take your feedback on board. Please continue to tell us what you like and don't like about the schedule. I’ll keep you informed of any further changes.

Thanks,
Paul
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01-27-2014 , 09:42 AM
Deep shock waves treble the ***OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread***. Hours long silence follows ITT. Is it really true ? Ok I will be the first poster to say thank you.

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The $2 PLO R @ 15:45 has been reinstated.
Never thought this would happen for only a $2 PLO R. Thank you.
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01-27-2014 , 10:08 AM
I'm currently logged in on Party and this is what I see. Anyone else?



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Originally Posted by centebakkie
Nope working fine here.
Fml. Was working fine on Friday when I last played. I didn't see any update either. It's weird

Nevermind. Restarted the client and it fixed itself

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-27-2014 at 01:06 PM. Reason: 3 posts merged
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01-27-2014 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wodka
Yes. The problem most likely is that they built the software quick and dirty back in the days without any sourcecode documentation or the like. During all the years they patched the code with all kinds of new features and bugfixes. This code is probably a huge mess now and I really don't envy the guys that have to maintain this software. Otherwise I can't explain why they are not able to make a stable release at all.

Best solution would be to rebuild this thing from scratch with sound documentation and solid testing. Ideally the players wouldn't even recognize the difference from the looks but only because there are no more crashes, etc
Yes IYAM that about sums it up in the first part.
The second part would not be cost effective as JohnCleese mentioned in his post.

I have only been reading 2+2 daily since last summer, but I get the feeling these conversations have been repeating over and over all these years.
When was the first post about auto-addon ? Gonna dig into this threads history a bit today.
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01-27-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi,

We have made some further changes to the schedule based on your feedback.




The $5R @ 14:00 and $20R @ 15:15 have been reinstated. The $54FO $8k GTD @ 1600 has been replaced with the improved $50FO $12k GTD also @ 1600.




The $20R @ 15:15 and $100 FO @ 16:15 have been reinstated.





The $10R @ 06:45 has been reinstated.





The $2 PLO R @ 15:45 has been reinstated.


In summary, we’ve reinstated the following tournaments:

$10R @ 06:45
$5R @ 14:00
$108 FO @ 14:30
$20R @ 15:15
$2 PLO R @ 15:45
$100 FO @ 16:15

In addition, as I mentioned yesterday, we have switched over 20 guaranteed tournaments from Hyper Turbo format to Regular format with a 15 minute clock and have also switched all of the Majors tournaments with a buy-in of $5 or more from a 10 minute clock to a 15 minute clock.

We’re continuing to monitor and review the schedule and will continue to take your feedback on board. Please continue to tell us what you like and don't like about the schedule. I’ll keep you informed of any further changes.

Thanks,
Paul
So been more then 12 hours and still waiting to receive a 'call back' from your team... are you going to make an effort to comment and get back to me?
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01-27-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
Yes IYAM that about sums it up in the first part.
The second part would not be cost effective as JohnCleese mentioned in his post.

I have only been reading 2+2 daily since last summer, but I get the feeling these conversations have been repeating over and over all these years.
When was the first post about auto-addon ? Gonna dig into this threads history a bit today.
I disagree on the cost effectiveness. I don't know about the pricing of pokersoftware etc. and the extent of the "code **** up" but if that is partys view its a very short sighted approach they are taking. Of course short-term patching an existing crappy solution is cheaper than setting up a new solution but ideally in the long run the new solution will more than make up for the initial costs because you have less maintenance, easier expandibility and satisfied customers. On the other hand if they are planing on their poker business to die anyways and are just treating it as a cash cow atm than I understand their decision.

However its not our decision but its fun to discuss this nevertheless
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01-27-2014 , 05:34 PM
What soft can i use beside TN and PartyCaption for auto-timebank and fixed bets?

Thanks in advice
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01-27-2014 , 05:38 PM
partyezcash
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01-27-2014 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
Tried PP again after long break, and the software ins just a nightmare to multitable MTTs with other rooms going

Clicking to action results in a delay/lag, and sometimes it doesnt work at all. So tilting to have to go back to thre PP to fix/redo your move all the time

Is this standard? or something on my PC I need to fix? all other rooms I play don't do this
no i was complaining about the ridiculousness of the lag that makes the site unplayable if trying to play anything that resembles volume (even 1 tabling is problematic if you try to open a tourney lobby or reg another game by opening the main lobby)

id like to play on party, and try the new schedule (i disliked 10 handed and 15 minute levels personally) but i cant

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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
my computer is 6 months old, everything optimized, party refreshing or opening tourney lobby freezes everything and god forbid i play over 2 tables

you guys are a joke undeserving of what little market share you have left

and fix your auto addon you tools


im not saying whoever runs the show over there shouldve been fired years ago....

oh wait...






if a player maximizes the party main lobby as one might do in order to select a table or tournament to join, and their entire comp freezes for 10-30 seconds with nothing else running while the party lobby refreshes

one might say about the software ___________
A its bad.
B its terrible.
C its not like online poker/casinos are a multibillion dollar industry or anything what do you expect?
D oh, ya, party poker just does that, that's why i don't play there.
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01-27-2014 , 07:00 PM
Please consider changing the payout structure, it is very bad.

The other day the 888's Monsoon and Party's $50 12.5k got the same number of entrants, 350 entrants.

The monsoon paid out 3600 for 1st, and paid out 36 spots.
Party paid out 2400 for 1st, and 72 spots.

Any recreational player or reg is going to make their way over to other sites if Party's prizepools continue to be uninspiring.
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01-27-2014 , 10:59 PM
I've already installed and registered for pokerstars! I also notice that the entrants for partypoker 200k gaurantee was only 1080 this week instead of around 1300. already losing customers it seems.
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01-28-2014 , 03:43 AM
So the Party software use to do your typical freeze, and I would shut down/reboot the program once every 1-2 hours... Things have gotten even more out of hand lately, where the software simply shuts down inadvertently! Oh well, since the latest MTT **** up, I barely play on Party, so not a big deal Party Rep, go on with your usual ignore business...
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01-28-2014 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
no i was complaining about the ridiculousness of the lag that makes the site unplayable if trying to play anything that resembles volume (even 1 tabling is problematic if you try to open a tourney lobby or reg another game by opening the main lobby)
Thanks. Yeah party support emailed me back and OBV suggested a reinstall, but I'm not going to bother. Just withdrew what was left of my deposit.

Doesn't look like abusing the poor 2p2 party rep works guys. (No surprise)

How about pretty please sort out the software Party? I could use another smallish room for MTT grinds
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01-28-2014 , 08:06 AM
lol 2 identical $10 6maxes starting at the same time, make one of them 20/30 or w/e
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01-28-2014 , 08:10 AM
Is anyone in Europe able to use fast bank transfer with USD?

Everything about my account is in USD, but I'm only getting the option to transfer in Euro's. I've contacted support and after a few days they can't figure out if it's an error with the software, or if transfers to the Czech Republic are only available in Euros.

Seems like another situation where Party wants to Party and make sure they get 2-3% from all cash outs.
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01-28-2014 , 08:22 AM
I've done a reinstall and it seems to have made the lobby issue a bit better.
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01-28-2014 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by deancow
I've done a reinstall and it seems to have made the lobby issue a bit better.
Try set the lobby to less visible games (needs less updating) will help also.
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