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04-18-2011 , 02:47 PM
That's it. Good bye online poker. Its over now... FINISHED.

And I mean for EVERYONE, because just look on stars right now at how nitty all the games are without US players. NL5 is now what nl25 was a year ago, Im serious.
04-18-2011 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AlligatorBloodFTW
Anyone from US tried to deposit and play on Carbon/Cake? THey have new "Black Friday Specials" for US players.
where are these specials ? I don't see them. Link please
04-18-2011 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Nonsense.

The Wachovia situation was due to faulty Controls and Policies that didn't effectively flag certain transactions at a Bank that they'd acquired during the Banking Crisis. This is very different from outright provable Fraud. The On Line Gaming providers set out on a scheme to bypass Federal Laws. The Wachovia case is similar to the requirement that Branches catch Structured Transactions.

No you are talking nonsense Wachovia compliance identified the transactions as money laundering and senior executives ignored them.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ico-drug-gangs

Last edited by davmcg; 04-18-2011 at 03:00 PM. Reason: added link
04-18-2011 , 02:51 PM
Americans should seriously think about reading a bit on politics and maybe rioting/protesting or voting for people like RON PAUL and such in senate and as the head of the states,coz this thing is ridiculous and we need more amerifish
04-18-2011 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Nonsense.

The Wachovia situation was due to faulty Controls and Policies that didn't effectively flag certain transactions at a Bank that they'd acquired during the Banking Crisis. This is very different from outright provable Fraud. The On Line Gaming providers set out on a scheme to bypass Federal Laws. The Wachovia case is similar to the requirement that Branches catch Structured Transactions.
so what are you saying?
what is nonsense??

poker sites fined 3 billion;
wahovia fined 150 million

all they did was launder 370 BILLION in drug money.

I'm not saying that they were running an online gambling operation while falsifying transfers.

I'm saying that their crime was much worse, and the punishment was much less.
do you think running finances for 1000s of tons of illegal coke is no biggie??

you do'nt you think that has something to do w/ conflicts of interest and corruption on a higher level??
America needs to launder that drug $.
gotta feed the monkey.

my point is that money laundering is ok, if your in the 'club',
and the article proves it.
why did'nt they seize the entire 370 billion?

Last edited by stampler; 04-18-2011 at 03:00 PM.
04-18-2011 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
Solid first post. I sincerely hope English isn't your first language.
Solid post on your part as well. well done. i just hope thinking is not your first hobby.
04-18-2011 , 02:54 PM
Haha, what are you guys going to do now?
04-18-2011 , 02:56 PM
Everyone please blow up the DOJ's facebook page with your comments.

You must like it first, which is lol, but whatever

http://www.facebook.com/#!/DOJ?sk=wall
04-18-2011 , 02:58 PM
wow vince van patton just missed a perfect opportunity to flame the US govt on cnn, terrible job by him.
04-18-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Charge
Solid post on your part as well. well done. i just hope thinking is not your first hobby.
were you trying to be funny?

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Originally Posted by Troy_AF
That's it. Good bye online poker. Its over now... FINISHED.

And I mean for EVERYONE, because just look on stars right now at how nitty all the games are without US players. NL5 is now what nl25 was a year ago, Im serious.
Look, can we please keep these kind of posts out of this thread? How do you know online poker is finished? Do you know something we don't?
04-18-2011 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AlligatorBloodFTW
Anyone from US tried to deposit and play on Carbon/Cake? THey have new "Black Friday Specials" for US players.
I made a $25 deposit on the merge network this morning just to test the waters. Went through fine. And, I won the first tourney I played!
To bad it was a $2 Limit HORSE tourny with only 46 players but hey, a win is a win...

BM
04-18-2011 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
Look, can we please keep these kind of posts out of this thread? How do you know online poker is finished? Do you know something we don't?
So, we're only supposed to post positive happy easter bunny thoughts?

Still in Stage 1: Denial, I see.
04-18-2011 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Troy_AF
That's it. Good bye online poker. Its over now... FINISHED.

And I mean for EVERYONE, because just look on stars right now at how nitty all the games are without US players. NL5 is now what nl25 was a year ago, Im serious.
No-one has told Party, Ladbrokes (who just emailed me with a 50% RB offer 10 mins ago), Ipoker (Betfred just emailed me today with a $2000 reload offer), Will Hill etc. etc. This sites have all been much much softer than Stars in cash games for the past 2-3 years. They will get softer still now.

I remember when Paradise was the No.1 site by far.

Then it was Party.

Then Stars...

Stars was losing it anyway - too much greed - raking the micros, letting the Chinese DoN cheaters rip players off for $millions, half-stacked tables as the norm, making you play multiple tables until your eyes bled to get semi decent rakeback etc...

It was a good MTT site I guess.

This may or may not be the end of Stars/FTP outside of the US. It certainly isn't the end of online poker. And I'd guess it will come back all the stronger in the US when it's licensed at some point. Prohibition wasn't forever after all..
04-18-2011 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jb9
Quote:
The defendants in the case may try to convince a federal court judge that poker isn’t a game of chance but really all a matter of skill. If that were the case, why is Las Vegas so keen on the game – and making easy money off of it?
Quote of the year by AINEC.
04-18-2011 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB
Am I the only one that deposited on Tilt mid-October... Was never charged from my bank account. Emailed them every other week from October through last week... and then was suddenly charged on Thursday 4/14/2011? wtf :/
$50 Deposit...same happened to me. I shipped someone $50 for $50 cash who didn't have a bank account to deposit from and immediately redeposited it. Strangely enough it never withdrew from my account. I thought I was some kind of bank robber until one week ago I received an email from FTP letting me know that I would be debited $50 and it was a mistake. It's all very strange.
04-18-2011 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PLO_Micro_Donkey
Uh, no.

Got nailed for shady business practices -> check.
Fought charges for a while -> check.
Rolled over, even though account were supposedly secret and "not reachable by U.S." -> check.
[ ] Poker accounts are used by wealthy Americans as tax havens

Apples and oranges. A more relevant comparison is Neteller.
04-18-2011 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PLO_Micro_Donkey
So, we're only supposed to post positive happy easter bunny thoughts?

Still in Stage 1: Denial, I see.
No, shut up, it's not about being positive or negative, it's about filling this already huge thread with absolutely worthless posts
04-18-2011 , 03:33 PM
Where are you guys playing (those in the US) where can i deposit? Lock Pokerdoesnt work for me, where else can i try?
04-18-2011 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WEC
Tell YOUR lawmakers that poker is not a crime!

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Send a letter to President Obama and Attorney General Holder

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Try to keep this posted in here. Literally takes less than a minute to send all 3. Secretaries for reps are getting very pissed about all the calls as well, so keep the pressure on.
04-18-2011 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
Where are you guys playing (those in the US) where can i deposit? Lock Pokerdoesnt work for me, where else can i try?
Looks like its going to be bodog cake or sportsbook.I think alot of us are still waiting to see if its safe to go back into the water or if a new round of indictments are coming down.
04-18-2011 , 03:43 PM
I have lots of money tied up on FTP, which I will probably never get back. I am wondering why anyone in the world is still playing on FTP when they have given players no correspondence, don't return emails, just zero communication as far as what is happening. I wouldn't trust them and makes me sick to think of how much money I have on there.

Last edited by atel2525; 04-18-2011 at 04:08 PM.
04-18-2011 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PLO_Micro_Donkey
So, we're only supposed to post positive happy easter bunny thoughts?

Still in Stage 1: Denial, I see.

PLEASE BAN PLO_Micro_Donkey, or at least block him from this thread.
04-18-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by atel2525
I have lots of money tied up on FTP, which I will probably never get back. I am wondering why anyone in the world is still playing on FTP when they have given players no correspondence, don't returen emails, just zero communication as far as what is happening. I wouldn't trust them and makes me sick to think of how much money I have on there.
They probably aren't even allowed to not give us our money back, assuming you're not in US.
04-18-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit90
PLEASE BAN PLO_Micro_Donkey, or at least block him from this thread.
Yup, apparently only Easter bunny posts are wanted.
04-18-2011 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by atel2525
I have lots of money tied up on FTP, which I will probably never get back. I am wondering why anyone in the world is still playing on FTP when they have given players no correspondence, don't returen emails, just zero communication as far as what is happening. I wouldn't trust them and makes me sick to think of how much money I have on there.
hey ya this exact for me. I'm in deep **** right now.

      
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