any good news?

Someone says that every ten pages too

not sure if the correct forum, but as a UK player what do u guys think about playing the FTOPS, soft, hard? value etc... defo garenteed payouts and will be able to cash out afterwards??? appreciate the comments...

and **** the US Gov hope you americans are bk online soon!!!

very funny

If any of you are wondering what to do now, there are many good ideas in this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...hread-1021812/

We can all do several things to take action.

I am definitely willing to be part of a civil protest in D.C. - imagine thousands of poker players civilly playing poker showing the lawmakers, the media, and the rest of the voting American citizens that we're not a threat. We just want to play a damn game! Obviously signs and speakers could be part of the event.

Some high profile people speaking on our behalf would be great ... Ron Paul, Jason Alexander, Ben Affleck, and any other celebrities/politicians that the masses might listen to.

Check out the thread, please. Contribute to it if you have ideas.

We have to organize and take action!



Note: the push should be for regulation, not to condone what FTP/P did (even though they were forced into it). We need regulation that we can all live with, and that's definitely not coming unless we are heard. Otherwise, when regulation comes, we'll surely get a terrible deal.

can u explain, how has it treated it customers, sorry been pretty busy outside poker im a mid stakes reg, but just catching up on all this milarky... cheers

10K? lol. They said on that poker talk show yesterday that around 50,000 pro online poker players in the US. Then you have all the reporters and staff working for fulltilt and stars that are losing their jobs. Probs around 250,000 people lost their jobs. Nice move by the goverment, rape another 250,000 people and put them out of work. That should get them spending more and get the economy moving again, fantastic. On top of that poker players splash around cash more than nearly any other worer that I know of.

The Pokersites have done illegal things with our money, I cant belive most people blame the government for this "they didn't take your money the poker site did" and they gambled it in frauduland enterprises, knowing what they did was illegal, and worse still they knew since 2006. I belive the only way you will ever get your money back is by reporting the site to your local authoritys and claming your money back. Otherwise the Government will happily keep it all. As it says on pokerstars.com "it is illegal to participate in the illegal wagering" and unless you play dumb to this and say it is the fault of the site only for giving you bad info that it was legal, I belive you will lose everything...
Good luck all..

First post, been lurking or a while and now is a good time to chime in.
Am a UK based player cutting my teeth on PLO at the micros and am watching on with interest at developments in the States.

Much of what I am saying has been said before but I’d like to show some solidarity with fellow players States side.

I would urge US players to try to stay calm as best they can, the players on poker only sites are innocent parties and I believe their bank rolls will be recoverable. They aren’t falling foul of UIGEA and ultimately a group action taken by poker playing professionals would bear this out. It’s simply not a tenable position to rule that poker is not a skill game.

As for allegations of fraud or money laundering, this of course has nothing to do with the poker playing public.

Should the future of online poker in the States, or anywhere else, involve taxation on winnings there needs to be provision of tax relief on losses as well as gains so it’s a level playing field. Anything else would be the government having a piece of you when you’re winning but being nowhere to be seen when you are losing.

Large scale petitioning for poker players rights and petitioning against UIGEA in so far as it relates to poker as suggested in recent threads is the way to go.

idiot gets some flipping facts before you write ****....

stfu

the superusers on ftp are probably more mad than anyone. Mr Boogerz and any other ones have had a free-for-all in last few months since PTR has stopped tracking ftp. He must've gotten wind of this shutdown and went ahead and shipped that 307k tourney this past sunday, and destroyed the 200-400 plo cap games a few nights ago to milk the americans dry one final time

OMG this isn't true.

Otherwise good post.

I have read that all of these companies could face fines up to $3 billion. If that happens, are any of them big enough to survive this kind of fine?

At least for once fulltilt gets raped. They have raped us with terrible support, terrible rewards, multi entry, FTPdoug and finally they get raped.

Every couple of pages of this post has an idiot who keeps pulling stuff out of his ass because he doesn't understand the 1st thing about what's actually happening.

I read the same thing, but I don't see that happening. That amount is also a guestimate Poker Stars's worth. That's way to much $.

The 3 main sites are to be prosecuted for illegal activity so aiming fire at the government is probably the wrong thing to do. Of course we want to able to play poker but for me, personally, I wouldn't want to play on a corrupt site or have my money passed through some sick greed stricken cash processors. It's all sick and it needed to be changed.

Not american so I ain't even mad but seriously, could you please stfu? Tired of your incessant trolling.. you're contributing nothing, and actually according to your join date you never have contributed anything.

This is very wrong.

Of course we aim our energies toward the gov't! They are the reason why all of this sht is happening!

What we must do is push for regulation, though. No need to bring FTP/PS into the battle... it was an unfortunate situation, and it will not help our side to back them.

cliffs?

Looks like some of us are here just to muddy the waters.

Mods please take a note of the registration dates and their posts ... something stinks.

No, they're not.

Bank fraud is bank fraud, whether you're running Pokerstars, or the neighborhood florist shop.

beachy head?

Yes