So you're throwing $20's to everyone you encounter because it's Vegas therefore status quo?

That's not ethics. That's his preferences as a customer.

No. I, like you, am willing to bribe in order to screw other ppl by getting an employee to not do their job. I admit that bec sometimes that's just the way of it. Bec I'm willing to bribe under some circumstances I'm not going to condemn a person for trying to hustle one. In the restaurant case I'd say 'C,mon, you can't get a tip this time' and ask for the manager if I wasn't feeling generous. In Lou's case I'd chuckle to myself bec he's over reaching since there are clearly available tables. I could try the 'talk to the manager' ploy but in this case that's a pita. So I would tell the other players 'We need a couple of dollars each' and hand it over, I wouldn't pay it myself. If they don't want to part w/ $2 each we wouldn't have our SNG.

What I don't like is the outrage itt. Maybe from some kids who've never run across this type of situation before, but not from the ppl w/ some years, esp in LV, under their belt.

I hate to admit this but Howard Beale is absolutely correct. The only reason we were upset about this at all was because we like freebies, and to be perfectly honest none of us were actually upset about this. We just feigned fake outrage because this is the NVG and it makes us feel good and powerful to tear other people's lives apart.

However, now that this elderly man is on the streets because of our idiocy, I feel absolutely horrible and everyone else should too. None of us know the full ramifications of our actions. He might have kids and grand-kids that will all be negatively impacted by this not to mention how this will affect Lou himself. I don't know if I could take it i found out he was living on the streets abusing drugs and alcohol.

I'm sure he doesn't have an internet connection but hopefully Lou will somehow receive the message that we are tremendously sorry for what we did to him and we wish nothing but the best for him going forward.

This post sets the record for most wild assumptions ever on 2+2.

I had to stand in line for 90 minutes while a table sat empty. A dealer was employed to sit at that empty table waiting for players. I have spinal stenosis, and after waiting that long to finally get a seat, my back was in a lot of pain and remained that way for a week. The dealer sitting at an empty table (probably sharing the grease) should also be fired, as they were stealing from their employer.

So, no ... "i like freebies" was not my only reason for being upset.

Did you ask Lou or another employee for a chair? Perhaps you should contact an attorney regarding the Rio not following the American Disabilities Act but I fail to see how this is Lou's fault.

That is if you are telling the truth, because honestly if you were in that much pain I think you would have ponied up the money, AMIRITE. I'm thinking you might be stretching the truth a TAD bit. Regardless, the tip would have easily paid for itself in the 90 minutes you waited.

He's trolling, pay no attention.

I didn't know it was an option. As I said earlier, Lou did not solicit a tip from me.

Hopefully you now understand his reservation about letting you know about the option. I'm sure he would have liked to tell the whole world that you can tip him to get faster service but as evidenced by this thread if he tells the wrong person he could get canned. Essentially, snitches not only screwed Lou over but they also screwed over customers like you.

In Vegas this sort of thing is generally "understood." It's unfortunate that you didn't realize that at the time.

Well aren't you the cumquat of the day.

Part of me thinks you should have as your avatar. Another part of me thinks you should have Alicia Silverstone as your avatar.

I'd like to have Alicia Silverstone.

Screwed over customers? I don't think so. Now we have a new person running the satellites, who doesn't feel a need to extort us. I'm pretty sure that's a win for the customer.

Or delusions of grandeur ("Look at me, world! Watch me! I live like a king! Watch me hand my servant at the board $20 for him to do the job he's paid to do.").

Lot of pathetic idiots in this thread who take pleasure in being bullied and shaken down. One loser handing another loser some paper money.
"It's Vegas, baby! You shouldn't come here unless you're as stupid as I am - I hand out money unnecessarily left and right, and when people won't do their job unless I bribe them, I'm happy to pay the bribe!"

Well said and 1,000% correct.

Lol, needs more love

lol

Possibly, or possibly the satellites are running even slower because the new guy has no incentive to get them started.

However, that is not what I was referring to. Afwoods was unintentionally screwed over by the snitches. He has spinal stenosis and really needed to take a seat but he didn't know that you could tip Lou to get the game going because Lou had to be careful about who he opened up to.

I would say that knowing the previous dude got fired for not doing his job of starting the games is pretty good incentive to start the games for the new employee.

There's a difference between tipping for exceptional service, or even competent service and being extorted for a tip or refused service (which is effectively what was going on here, he wouldn't perform his duties until tipped)

I'll happily tip someone if it's customary to do so as it is in the U.S if they're doing their job correctly but if someone is refusing to perform the duties that they are being paid to perform by their employer unless I tip them then i'm not tipping, and that person deserves to be fired. This guy deserved to be fired and if that brings him hardship then he brought that on himself.

What this guy did was bull**** and he absolutely deserved to be fired and Howard Beale is just so far out of touch with reality here (and yes, I tip everyone when i'm in Vegas as long as they are competently performing the functions of their job).

Some of the posts in this thread cannot be real.

You have a guy who is paid for working at the RIO to start the SNG's by finding players and getting the table set up. This is his job, he is paid hourly to do it. Having not been there I can't comment for sure, but I imagine it's highly unlikely you need to have a special skill set to do this job, meaning there's a large number of people that could take his place. The players pay a rake for this service, for the dealer, for the floor space etc. If we believe a staff member does goes above and beyond their line of duty, then I'm all for tipping, however, this guy is trying to extort money out of the players simply for his own greed.

The amount of money is irrelevant, it shouldn't be "I'll need $535 for the $525 SNG because I need to pay that bloke for doing the job he's already paid for". I know Vegas is built around tips but when you go to a bar, you decide if you want to tip afterwards, you don't pay beforehand for the opportunity to order a drink, which is effectively what the SNG registration line was becoming, paying extra for the opportunity to register.

Never blindly attribute to trolls and shills posts that can be better attributed to ignorance and stupidity.

In 1994 yeah, now not so much.

You're making it sound like a bad thing.