But is it legal to give a guy a Crisco handshake?

Posting his photo here is not against the law, and it is not libel if it is the truth.

I didn't say it was libel. I just said it opens certain parties up to claims of libel.

Movies have a posted start time though. Lots of grey area with sats and maybe that's the problem. More wiggle room, more room for guys to extract tips/grease.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to justify his actions.... but a lot of people in Vegas live off tips and not their hourly income. (More so than any other city in America I'd imagine)

That being said, there's a fine line between doing his job and just being greedy.

I really don't understand how this can turn into a tipping/overtipping/not tipping discussion. For me this has nothing to do with tipping. The guy just tried to bully someone into giving them money.

This is really not comparable with some of the examples mentioned. If you choose not to tip the guy opening the cab door, it's not like he is gonna send you away saying "well you'll have to walk home then".

classic wsop

That sounds like a flaw in the current system.

W/E you do do NOT go into the construction business or any other that requires a sign-off. And (sigh) if I ever get a woman that I want to take to a LV nightclub you can be sure that I've got a fifty in my hand and am heading straight to the velvet rope instead of being on that ridic line.

The pro-type poker players crack me up. Scoop a huge pot and I watch them while they 'struggle' to decide if they should tip an extra dollar and, when they do, they do it w/ flair as if the extra dollar makes everybody feel that they are being very generous.

ITT we learn that some old guy trying to make a couple of bucks the ONE time a year that he can comes from a long line of bad actors: Satan. Lucifer. Beelzebub. Damn old guy at the SNG section of the WSOP.

Get over yourselves, it's a couple/few bucks, jfc.

All your posts itt are awful howard, and your analogies make less sense than you think

Nah, I'm right.

ITT Howard Beale posting poorly and humblebragging about not caring about money, totally missing the big picture.

Apparently he always greets players by saying "Please allow me to introduce myself....."

The satellite line is total chaos and this old guy is exploiting it.

Also, if you want to tip $20 to play an STT be my guest.

The bolded part made me laugh.

"JUST rec playing wannabes" ??

You have no clue about poker or whose play pays the bills.

When I play, I am a rec player, for sure. Nah, from my perspective the real function of pompous wannabe pros is to provide fme with entertainment at the table or on forums like this.

Thanks, you made me laugh ....

Was about to post something very similar to this...

Instead I will just +1 it. Howard, I couldn't disagree with you more.

That's fine, we are having a discussion. What I don't get, 'big picture wise', is why so many itt think it's a big deal to collect $2 from 10 ppl to get a $525 sat started in a town where tipping is standard. I can understand not liking it, I can sympathize w/ those that think they shouldn't have to tip a person just to do his job, but come on! A couple of dollars each to get what you want? That's the problem? Really?

There's a huge difference between tipping and greasing.

Tipping occurs when there is complete transparency long before a service-related transaction as to what is expected from both parties.

This behavior has more in common with a Mexican policeman pulling over an American automobile to grease them because the driver is profiled for having excess money. It starts to blur into the behavior of theft.

Maybe because he is allegedly extorting people.

Would be basically the same if the cocktail server brought your water but demanded $5.

Maybe you've never played an STT at the WSOP. The process is chaotic enough without some guy taking bribes to start particular games.

I wouldn't like it if some guy jumped to the top of the list because he slipped the guy $20, but that isn't even what OP is saying happened.

He is saying this guy was demanding money from anyone who wanted to play.

That's actually a good point. You're right, it's greasing. Now that you put it that way I can relate to the objections better. I'd still pay it though.

It's the principle, not the principal. It's the difference between a bribe and a tip. True, in some circumstances, such as show seating, bribes are accepted practice but not in this case. And as to the principal, in practice it's usually $20 from one, not $2 from ten.

Bottom line: it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Even accepted-practice instances annoy a lot of people. I, for example, will chose a reserved seating show over a bribe-seating show if the former is at all comparable in entertainment value.

Such attitudes won't be dissolved in this thread.

Spoke to woman named Tesa right before the $1500 was starting who was at the Satellite podium and she told me she was getting tons of complaints about that guy. His name is Lou and he was off today but according to her, he probably won't be coming in tomorrow. Again, she wasn't definitive on that but all the higher ups have been notified by a lot of unhappy players Lou was basically trying to extort just to run a satellite table.

before getting lou fired shouldn't someone find out if he really has a friend named grease?

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anyone saying to the contrary is either:

1. levelling like a mother****er
2. one of the scumbags who are part of the problem
3. a dense mark who has seen casino one too many times

sincerely hope this asshat got fired

I tried playing the **** show that is the STT area and it was amazing how infrequently stts were being accommodated when there was a line and this guy was running the show. I too hope he is relieved of his position. Maybe Tunica would be a better fit.

How is posting a picture of this guy breaking the law?