Ya not to mention Ivey plays obviously very leaky every time I watch him play on tv

Well, just by definition of the word, the number of people who can dominate is very few.

Through glancing at the list its seems Chau Giang, Yan Chen, Daniel Aliae, and Abe Mossari made the transition from live to online pretty well themselves.

lol i laughed my balls off when i saw that you created a thread after this

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...reads-1125418/

Here are some highlights of his crazy stats that I posted in the raiseonce thread:

Simple adjustments required to beat Ivey:

1. Raise his cbet with any made hand
2. Check behind flop with air because he will check-raise
3. Bet large on the river for value
4. Shove premiums PF when he's in the BB, he ain't folding.
5. ?????
6. Ivey profits in all likelihood.

He was beating the game until he decided to play Hoss_TBF and didn't stop until he busted his ftp account. Should have practiced avoidance imo. On another note, they missed a big hu session where Alex L crushed Nekotyan aka The Pidarast. Alex should be top 3 winners in the game.

Cliff notes:

Phil Ivey is god and reads your soul through a computer

Durrr managed to donk off 1.7mega in draw poker ROFL

They don't mind as much when you're just going to dump millions into the site.

Hasu, have you ever gone to vegas to play LHE vs Ivey live?
I guess Ivey is there for everyone who has $$

Ivey was playing high stakes long before FT ever existed, and at a young age. Most of the other "old school" poker players were not that young. Ivey played Andy Beal how old was he?

How good do you have to be at poker to be a young black kid and have old school poker pros trust you with their entire bankrolls as did Doyle and crew when they had Ivey play Beal. Furthermore how good to you have to be to have Andy Beal, a billionaire willing to take on any pro in Vegas, say that he will play anyone on "the team" EXCEPT Phil Ivey?

We've seen Ivy eat young internet sensations for breakfast on HSP. We've seen his abilities on display with hole cards shown. But just because he doesn't fit the stereotype of an austistic palefaced 20 year old he was cheating? Really? What big online winner has publicly demonstrated their skill more than Ivey? No one.

Dwan wouldn't play Ivey in his heads-up challenge? Maybe he knew of how well he adjusted.

would you suspect tiger woods of cheating on his golf course?

so this !

Ivey's stake in FTP was upwards of 8 figures. Do you really think the mostly critically acclaimed poker player of all time (sry chip) would risk that by cheating online in a post UB era? This guy crushes at every form of poker EVER. Ivey's gunna ivey and nvg trolls are gunna nvg troll.

That analogy is just way off and you probably know that, too. Would you trust a broker to give you the best price on a market order when he´s prop trading, too?

I am still totally amazed about the level of naiveté on this forum (which is not solely located over here in NVG but more a human trait) when it comes down to the themes of "money" and "business". That´s the reason why scam schemes runned by the likes of Bernard Madoff or Helmut Kiener (just to name the recent scandal´s) will always work.

Just to clarify my initial post:

There´s no doubt that Ivey is one of the best poker players. BUT if you ignore all of those recent scandals and disclosures you´re just borderline naive.

PI´s winning rate in nearly ALL games is 3x better than the best HS regs.

That´s just an absurd edge. Is this really explainable by game selection, bum hunting, A-game and BRM? When the most HS regs started playing Ivey, they didn´t consider him as the best player they´ve ever met. However Ivey always "adapted" really quick... No one has ever had detailed info about his personal financial situation (craps etc.), so saying he´s worth xx figures and doesn´t need it seem like a weak argument.

Apart from that, PA is the biggest multi-accounter of all times. I really can´t admire those guys and their legends...

People vehemently arguing that Ivey is good at poker ITT.

I thought anyone who would be intrested in highstakes online results would have seen these stats awhile ago.

OT...
Meh, I get the idea that stats, the hud and other stuff might be confusing for someone but isn't the ability to follow your games graphically a big enough reason alone to keep HM or similar tracking software. I can't understand why anyone, let alone a high profile nosebleed professional like PA, would do this.

I seriously doubt this.

so you guys are now implying that PI is a hand history superuser,and PA benefited from multiaccounting?

makes sense to crush if you have access to 100% of the hands played,but no proof is so bad

No, just on his wife.

must be nice to be antonius, up 13million or so...not bad

i dont think ivey cheated, but if he did he'd be the best at it.

The fact that i too find it so hard to believe hed cheat sort of makes me think maybe he did, because i too am certain hed be so dam good at that too that thats exactly what i would think if he did cheat.

This line would have been awesome in Twelve Angry Men

Phil Ivey is fraudulent.... even as a kid he was faking ids...