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07-16-2023 , 12:32 PM
Cheers
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07-16-2023 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by POGcrazy94
FT definitely starts 6PM EST correct?
If this is accurate then 2pm PST for 1 hour on Youtube.

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07-16-2023 , 02:29 PM
Damn you Americans with your different time zones
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07-16-2023 , 02:32 PM
Ivey entered the $3k HORSE yesterday and still has chips.

Hopefully, he and Isildur1 get heads up for the bracelet.
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07-16-2023 , 02:44 PM
It was a mistake, what a surprise.


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07-16-2023 , 02:50 PM
Final table preivew starts in 10 minutes.

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07-16-2023 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by POGcrazy94
Damn you Americans with your different time zones
We are time zone amateurs compared to Russians.
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07-16-2023 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I'll be watching the coverage, but on paper this is probably the least inspiring collection of players since the Blumstein year.

That doesn't mean these people aren't great players though. There just aren't the usual big names you might hope to see.

Chalk it up to field sizes and everybody being so decent at NLHE that wizards can't just cruise anymore.

Ivey made the top 27 four times in the 00s (02, 03, 05, 09). I wouldn't be surprised if he never gets down there again.

Not because he isn't still a crusher, but just because the edges are thinner now and the fields are insanely huge.
That's a big part of it
It's also a product of how seriously he's taking the tournament. He's not some young hungry pro he's playing nose bleeds games and got stiffed by casinos for more than main first place money.
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07-16-2023 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NWAF99
I would assume that all the players will have spent the day off studying and researching their table-mates, looking for betting tells etc. Will anyone change their style knowing they’ve also been researched?
I'm sure they'll try and find stuff but there's only so many hours in a day. When they did the November 9 nonsense this was probably a thing.
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07-17-2023 , 09:33 AM
Final table end of day 1 chip counts:

Adam Walton 60,200 1C
Steven Jones 148,500 1B
Daniel Weinman 80,000 1D
Jan-Peter Jachtmann 132,200 1D
Juan Maceiras 60,000 Start day 2D??
Ruslan Prydryk 44,400 1D
Dean Hutchison 187,300 1D
Daniel Holzner 52,300 1D
Toby Lewis 59,400 1D
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07-17-2023 , 10:23 AM
Todd Brunson and Barbara Enright among leaders with 18 left in $3K HORSE.

Juanda, Rast, Nick Shulman, Chino Rheem, and David Williams still in $10K short deck.
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07-17-2023 , 10:23 AM
GO GO GO BARBARA!
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07-17-2023 , 12:24 PM
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07-17-2023 , 02:37 PM
Okie dokie, I missed most of the 9-to-3 playdown action yesterday, so I'm catching up with the highlights right now.

As you may recall, Holzner doubled up in a goofy hand with Weinman, getting 76o all-in against Weinman's T8 suited postflop on a flop of AK6. Weinman bet, Holzner check-jammed, and Weinman called off.

These are the same two players who got wrapped up in this Day 8 hand:
https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop...ips.588564.htm. As you can see, Weinman had K7 on a flop of AAT and folded when Holzner effectively moved in on the flop.

What strikes me is this:
In the 76 vs T8 hand, Weinman calls off on the flop presumably because he's getting almost 5-to-1 on the call (t2.7 million for a pot worth t12.9 million). He can't possibly like his hand, but goes with it because he priced himself in.

But on the KQ-K7 hand, Weinman did not call despite getting almost 6-to-1 (t1.2 million to win t7 million), holding a hand that could still be good and having backdoor hearts.

Short of some sort of solid physical tell from Holzner, is there something I'm missing that makes one a call and the other a fold? They don't seem all that different to me, but I also admit I'm not exactly an expert on ICM considerations.
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07-17-2023 , 03:47 PM
Button flats have a lot more weak AX hands and K7 blocks two obvious broadway bluffs (KJ and KQ) villain could have on an AxAxTx board. And we don't beat those bluffs anyway. We are only beating QJ. Easy fold.

OTOH, on AK6 short stack in the blinds should be reshoving most AX and KX hands pre. And why check shove if you got there? So villain's range is very capped to having having caught a 6, imo.
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07-17-2023 , 05:00 PM
Event #90: $10,000 6-Handed No-Limit Hold'em Championship:
Interesting dynamic: All four remaining players are going for their second wsop bracelet.
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07-17-2023 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceblocker
Barbara Enright and Brunson among leaders with 8 left in the $3K HORSE.
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
GO GO GO BARBARA!
The old bag is 5/8.
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07-17-2023 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
The old bag is 5/8.
Old bag hanging in there
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07-18-2023 , 01:34 AM
POY drama into the 11th hour.

Brewer is 4/7 in the $10k short deck and can overtake Matakis with a win, but Matakis has a stack in the $5k NLHE.

There's only one event after today, a $1k super turbo NLHE.

Would be quite funny and perhaps fitting if POY is determined by a turbo flippament.
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07-18-2023 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
POY drama into the 11th hour.
Would be quite funny and perhaps fitting if POY is
Does the WSOP Europe count towards the POY this year ?
It usually does ?
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07-18-2023 , 01:42 AM
I’ve always thought a requirement for POY should be at least 1 bracelet win. What’s the POY photo if you don’t, holding up a bunch of 16th place tickets lol?
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07-18-2023 , 01:49 AM
My recollection is that WSOPE doesn't count anymore. I feel like that was implemented after the Campbell/Negs/Deeb? year when they had the crazy grind in Czech Republic to try to prevail. I want to say it's only the LV events now, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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07-18-2023 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
I’ve always thought a requirement for POY should be at least 1 bracelet win. What’s the POY photo if you don’t, holding up a bunch of 16th place tickets lol?

For Chris Lucifer Ferguson that’s exactly what it was.

And I love how last year they stuck his banner in a tiny hallway to nowhere.
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07-18-2023 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DogFace
I want to say it's only the LV events now, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
I think you're right about it only being desert POY now.
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07-18-2023 , 04:31 AM
I'm in shock at how fast that final table went, especially the final three.
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