Ok but that gap is huge. You can't just over look it. We have no evidence the hole cards were compromised at all, let alone a signaling device on Robbi.

Pretty close to case closed in the poker community.

Will be a whole different story in a court of law. Gl garret

Bonnie and Clyde

I mean, except for the hand, the lies, the 15k, the backtracking, the outlandishly suspicious DM, etc etc. Yes, nobody has video evidence of a Bluetooth cheating device being paired to Bryan’s cell phone and used during the livestream.

But I couldn’t imagine a more overwhelming amount of evidence short of a confession or video tape of a planning session. And Robbi has done a terrible job lying and trying to cover this all up. I mean, I don’t know what else she could have done, but it is what it is.

If I have to convince you that this hand was extremely suspicious and the circumstances surrounding it even more so, I don’t know what kind of proof you would accept.

Hand signals, vibrating devices, cell phones, light signals, sounds, pushing your glasses, scratching your face, pointing at your shoulder… who knows how exactly it was done or signaled to each other. But in order for the cheating to have happened, and it almost certainly did, some method had to be used and it’s relevant to look for evidence how.

Bad form.

Beanz was wrongly suspected by police because he had a physical resemblance to the actual perpetrator, and he had just lost a bunch of money in Vegas cash games. The police only suspected him because someone from poker called and reported him, after seeing the video of the (successful) 2017 robbery.

However, the actual robber, Michael Cohen, came back to the scene about 18 months later, in March 2019. He was wearing the same disguise as the first time, and was clearly the same guy. He got unlucky in that he robbed it at the same time the police were already at Bellagio for an unrelated matter, involving a child kidnapping. When Cohen fled, he saw police in the valet area, and erroneously believed they were there for him. After failing to carjack someone while hastily trying to escape, he shot at a police officer, and then was shot in the head by another police officer.

There is 100% certainty that Michael Cohen was the 2017 Bellagio robber, and that nobody else was involved. He had previous convictions for bank robbery, and always worked alone.

Therefore, Beanz was not involved in this Bellagio matter whatsoever, other than being unfortunate enough to be the same height as the suspect and had some similar facial features.

Garrett, you obviously know this, because it seems you did extensive research into Beanz. Why did you make the above statement, which indirectly implies that Beanz might still be a suspect in that robbery? Why did you leave out that he ultimately was innocent in the entire matter?

I'm trying to read your allegations with an open mind, but when I see you attempt to mislead people like this, I start to question the veracity of everything else you wrote. Either be honest, truthful, and direct regarding all of these characters, or don't say anything at all.

tl;dr still no new evidence then. All this is is a rehashing of known facts and theories with a smattering of thoughts to convince the reader. What a letdown.

Okay, made it through this post.

Here is my question:

What exactly are you accusing her of now? As in: HOW did she cheat you?

This post is a LOT of drivel with no substantial claim or conclusion.

If you do not know how she cheated, let the investigation run its course and accept what they find. If you do have substantial proof of anything, bring it forwards and take subsequent steps of prosecution.

What you have posted is vague and, in summary, largely useless.

I tripped over this aswell, that isn't just bad form, given he most likely knew this beforehand, it's straight up lying.

How can it be far fetched? Who the hell plays that way? Calling off with J4 and stuff?

Regarding the rest of this, I was strongly in the "Robbi was innocent" camp until the info about this Bryan character dropped last night.

That obviously changed everything. Now I don't know what to think, but now the chance of holecard-signal cheating has gone WAY up. Let's look at what we know about Bryan:

- Hustler Casino Live employee from the start, was present for almost every stream - Opportunity

- Had access to hole cards in real time - Means

- Was caught on camera stealing $15k out of someone's stack - Willingness to commit similar crime

- Apparently was in dire need of funds - Motive

- Apparently had gambling problem - Motive

- Apparently resented his employer - Motive

- Several criminal convictions despite being fairly young - History



This guy fits the profile PERFECTLY of someone likely to be the inside guy in a holecard cheating scam. It would be shocking if he spent 13+ months at Hustler Casino Live and did NOT cheat, despite access to this super-valuable holecard info.

The tough part of committing a crime like this is getting an inside guy willing to do it. You can find a line a mile long of broke degenerates willing to take signals from this dude, and cheat on stream, in exchange for splitting the profits. This is especially true because Hustler Casino Live is a revolving door of new/unknown players, so new faces can show up and win without arousing suspicion. It's much easier to find an outsider to cheat than to get an established player to do so -- especially without being reported when broaching the idea.

Anyway, this Hustler stream should not be running. They need to shut it down and reconstruct their entire security procedure, including renewed background checks on anyone working there. How do we know Bryan was the only one? Clearly HCL didn't do background checks on their employees, or Bryan wouldn't have ever gotten that job.

Security is only as good as those with access to sensitive information. Here it appears HCL hired a criminal whose record was searchable on the internet, yet somehow they were either ignorant or willfully ignorant to it. Very, very bad look.

Everyone is assuming she didn’t tell him he could take the $15k

Lots of mistakes, wrong assumptions and still no evidence. Nice.

Would love to see a Big Papi Poker Game show take over the world and be fully secure and run by Joey The poker world needs you

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I think that after the cheating scandal is resolved, more people should come out with information about Adelsteins dealings in the LA poker community. From streams and interviews it seems that he has been directly involved in blocking players from games while he post tweets about how he does not harbor any ill will against the same players. All the while big names in poker continue to pump this guys ego saying he is one of the top people they have met in the larger community. Every industry or community need role models to attract new members etc. I dont think the community should promote a role model if the person in question is so different from what they portray.

Would love to see all of this in court.

Also agree the Hustler stream should not continue if they think their security measures have been compromised.

Charles and Robbi have a Ace Rothstein/Ginger thing going on, and Rip is like Jimmy Woods...

Charles prolly knew they were banging but this all becoming public has to be very humiliating for him..

maybe Robbi will be able to play these games on her own when they divorce and she gets half of hubbies ethereum.

That practice goes on in every poker economy across the US. It's really not a scandal unless you're completely new to poker.

If all people hear about are those that get caught, it tends to get people to draw a broad conclusion from that.

The funny thing about cheaters is you never know about the ones that don't get caught, and the reason they don't get caught is because they don't fall under the "idiot" category like the ones that were caught. Don't get me wrong, they're still scumbags. They're just not "idiot" scumbags like their less successful counterparts.

Forgive my ignorance.

Who is RIP ?

Who is Beanz ?

Who is Nik Airball ?

Hustler will surely check employees on cam during questionable hands to see if anything fishy was going on, it would be a good thing if they release this footage to the public regardless of outcome, with blurred faces or whatever they need to do to cover them legally.

Beyond a confession I'm not sure what other means could be used to prove without a doubt there was wrongdoing.

Let's be honest the vast majority of his bombshell "evidence" is basically just "source: trust me bro"

I am completely confused.

So, this “cheating ring” set this all up and only were out to cheat Garrett? Because some guy went on a podcast and called him out? Or, what is being concluded from this wall of text? So many random anecdotes that have nothing to do with actual evidence of cheating.

Based on all the other hands played it doesn’t seem like anyone but Garrett was “cheated”?

This is one of the most confusing situations I can ever remember in poker.

Hallelujah baby!

Genuine question - why do you think (or where does it say) that they were only out to cheat Garrett? AK vs A8 vs Persson?