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10-09-2022 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerJacks
One thing this incident shows is how dense many of you are. How hard is it to understand 2 simple concepts:
1. Nick doesn’t work for Hustler casino and does not have authority to release any casino camera footage at all.
2. Hustler casino will never release casino footage to the public unless police get involved.

Not that hard, folks….not that hard.
It would have been stronger in the first person.
10-10-2022 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerJacks
One thing this incident shows is how dense many of you are. How hard is it to understand 2 simple concepts:
1. Nick doesn’t work for Hustler casino and does not have authority to release any casino camera footage at all.
2. Hustler casino will never release casino footage to the public unless police get involved.

Not that hard, folks….not that hard.
Does nick have the authority to release get rich quick real estate videos?
10-10-2022 , 12:01 AM
For some reason Berkey says Bryan is going to delete all his posts here. They are still here now.
10-10-2022 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
For some reason Berkey says Bryan is going to delete all his posts here. They are still here now.
I'll take legal reasons for $1000.
10-10-2022 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerJacks
One thing this incident shows is how dense many of you are. How hard is it to understand 2 simple concepts:
1. Nick doesn’t work for Hustler casino and does not have authority to release any casino camera footage at all.
2. Hustler casino will never release casino footage to the public unless police get involved.

Not that hard, folks….not that hard.
Hi Nick. Glad you could join the convo! GL with hustler live we are pulling for you.
10-10-2022 , 12:05 AM
I will wait for the "official" investigation to conclude. I hope it is based on facts. This overly long post makes many interesting points, but it is mainly a set of invectives and innuendo. It is bizarre how many commentators regard it as "proof" when virtually none is offered. So many statements amount to "well, these two people were seen in a room together so obviously they were conspiring...."
10-10-2022 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by EdtheTed
I will wait for the "official" investigation to conclude. I hope it is based on facts. This overly long post makes many interesting points, but it is mainly a set of invectives and innuendo. It is bizarre how many commentators regard it as "proof" when virtually none is offered. So many statements amount to "well, these two people were seen in a room together so obviously they were conspiring...."

Hello, new account holder and first post maker. Question - what would you consider an “official” investigation?


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10-10-2022 , 12:09 AM
The investigation according to Nick Vertucci will take 30-60 days I think is what he said on that Brill interview I posted.
10-10-2022 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 5mcory
Rip is a dumb jock who works his ass off and has some money to spend. Robbi is your typical female "Hollywood" socialite. These arent rocket scientists here. They have told you this themselves.

Look at GA's OP. It reads worse than half the conspiracies put together on here. Hes a good poker player. Hes buff. Hes not as smart as you think he is.

Bryan the real scumbag has been palming chips for months. The entire scene over there was too stupid to catch him in the act. They let this dude play with the money he stole in the damn casino he stole it in. For months....

Everybody is dumber than you think.
Which is believable if the J4 hand was the only suspect thing about this situation. What we're really talking about here is a spot where this extremely "dumb" woman won 200k playing a game that you don't believe she understands the rules of, against the best players in the world, then when she was accused of cheating, got super nervous and gave the money back, then some guy who knew what all the cards were was caught stealing money off her stack, then she let him get away with it and hired a publicist while the guy who stole the money because he was in debt and had no money was able to obtain a lawyer.

There's even more ridiculous **** going on in this situation too, but the point is that everything makes perfect sense if the game was compromised in some way. We can just keep saying "wow everyone in LA who has infinite money to play a high stakes poker game with is a total idiot!" or we can accept that they're probably not stupid and come up with other explanations for why none of their actions or explanations have been rational. It's time for law enforcement to get involved here. Anyone standing in the way of that is likely hiding something.
10-10-2022 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
For some reason Berkey says Bryan is going to delete all his posts here. They are still here now.
1) if it’s not real Bryan, why would he delete them

2) if it’s the real Bryan, deleting is a waste of time. It’s all over the internet, people have screen shots.
10-10-2022 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PatersonPoker
What do you reckon the odds are for agriculturists and astronomers?
Probably quite different as they do not study human behaviour.................


The best analysis I've seen as to why the Experts, and I don't mean Poker Players!!, are unlikely to think Robbie cheated is here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOlGTvd1bg
10-10-2022 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by emitnulB
Which is believable if the J4 hand was the only suspect thing about this situation. What we're really talking about here is a spot where this extremely "dumb" woman won 200k playing a game that you don't believe she understands the rules of, against the best players in the world, then when she was accused of cheating, got super nervous and gave the money back, then some guy who knew what all the cards were was caught stealing money off her stack, then she let him get away with it and hired a publicist while the guy who stole the money because he was in debt and had no money was able to obtain a lawyer.

There's even more ridiculous **** going on in this situation too, but the point is that everything makes perfect sense if the game was compromised in some way. We can just keep saying "wow everyone in LA who has infinite money to play a high stakes poker game with is a total idiot!" or we can accept that they're probably not stupid and come up with other explanations for why none of their actions or explanations have been rational. It's time for law enforcement to get involved here. Anyone standing in the way of that is likely hiding something.
You want Garrett arrested?
10-10-2022 , 12:15 AM
Thanks for posting Bryan!

You make a lot of valid points about why you wouldnÂ’t cheat with that hand. Below are some random thoughts.

- The way GMAN over bluffs you could just wait for a good hand and nail him on the river. It didnÂ’t seem like Robbi was doing this at all. It almost seemed like the opposite where she wanted to call him with a crap hand.

-If you took 15k it was a huge screw up and hopefully you suffered enough that you wonÂ’t try anything like this again.

-Just because you werenÂ’t involved doesnÂ’t mean cheating was not going on. RIP staked Robbi for a full buy in which is totally strange. He could have thought she had something special, who knows.

-There is a lot of variance in poker. A donkey can win 3 sessions in a row by making bad calls. ThatÂ’s why pros make money in the long run.

- it sounds like hustler needs to do a better job with their security and vetting their players and employees. The is not a 1/2 NL they are playing. RIP and Robbie should not have been playing in the same game if he had a 100 percent stake in her.

- Letting certain players pick their seat is wrong! Again this is not a 1/2 game they are playing. If a player know exactly where he is going to sit each time they can rig something up to gain an advantage. The seating should be determined right before play starts, randomly.

- When there is money involved there will always be that person that tries to cheat the system. No one should have access to the players hold cards while the hand is active. Never mind a control room full of people.

- I know certain questions you canÂ’t answer due to possible future legal action, but I do appreciate you posting and hope everything turns out well for you.



- And for Doug Polk calling you out he should give you a free lifetime membership to UPSWING poker content.

Best wishes
10-10-2022 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by baltostar
You realize that if this is a cheating ring then this is all a setup for them to split-up the bounty, don't you ?

You're getting punked big-time by a little punk.

Notice how he never once mentions making amends for what he did , by paying back monies, working it off, apologies, whatever.
So he comes on here to say he didn’t cheat. Only to split up the bounty as part of the cheating ring who are going to out themselves. Got it.
10-10-2022 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
You want Garrett arrested?
I think a lot of people within the poker room should be suspected of cheating, and allowing the casino to investigate itself is unreasonable.
10-10-2022 , 12:24 AM
Amazing that Doug Polk is still allowed to post & have an opinion after being the face of a ponzi scheme.
10-10-2022 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jreven

-There is a lot of variance in poker. A donkey can win 3 sessions in a row by making bad calls. ThatÂ’s why pros make money in the long run.



Robbie had played a few times there and had played reasonably well, seemed to have made some money at least. There is a strong argument to say in the ''infamous'' hand she believed she had J/3, thus the look of surprise when she turned over her J/4. So, if she did think she had J/3 she probably ought to have called in that situation, although it was risky as it was 109k. Had it been 20k or so a call would have been a more obvious option.
10-10-2022 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Robbie had played a few times there and had played reasonably well, seemed to have made some money at least. There is a strong argument to say in the ''infamous'' hand she believed she had J/3, thus the look of surprise when she turned over her J/4.
There was no look of surprise when she turned her hand over. She did not misread her hand.


Just because someone plays 'ok' for 600 hands does not mean they are not capable of blowing up and doing something crazy and irrational. I have seen regs open jamming trash pre or calling off with total trash from tilt. Anyone can blow up, let alone a female fish with an ego looking to prove herself and sick of getting 'bluffed by men all the time' as she said.
10-10-2022 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CactusCub
I don't know, you tell us. Why did you grab 3 chips in front of all the cameras?
Yea and what made you so confident that Robbi AND Rip wouldn't notice 15k missing? What was going through your head to make you think you'd get away with that with them?

Because you did somehow. You only got caught because of the investigation right.

You had to have some reason to think you wouldn't be caught for it because that is a beyond absurd thing to do and expect to get away with.
10-10-2022 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mike tommo
Robbie had played a few times there and had played reasonably well, seemed to have made some money at least. There is a strong argument to say in the ''infamous'' hand she believed she had J/3, thus the look of surprise when she turned over her J/4. So, if she did think she had J/3 she probably ought to have called in that situation, although it was risky as it was 109k. Had it been 20k or so a call would have been a more obvious option.

Top notch analysis here. Great job. Welcome to the forums, new account who has only posted in this thread!


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10-10-2022 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ExpatRights
Amazing that Doug Polk is still allowed to post & have an opinion after being the face of a ponzi scheme.
If this were a crypto investing discussion you'd have a point. I'm guessing you're trying to confuse people into thinking he scammed people, but since he lost money from the coinflex thing, his only crime seems to be bad opinions on investing.

Personally I'm appreciative of Polk for bringing attention to the obvious suspiciousness of Rip and Robbi from the beginning despite popular opinion heavily favoring Robbi at that time.
10-10-2022 , 12:40 AM
Cheated to get it in as a 47% dog.

My knee jerk reaction having seen it live was to email a friend and tell him to check out the cheating.
It reminded me of the 10hi busted flush draw call take down pot that showed Russ Hamilton was cheating.


But the reality is why would a cheater potentially expose the scheme over a 47% spot?
10-10-2022 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rivercityransom
Yea and what made you so confident that Robbi AND Rip wouldn't notice 15k missing? What was going through your head to make you think you'd get away with that with them?

Because you did somehow. You only got caught because of the investigation right.

You had to have some reason to think you wouldn't be caught for it because that is a beyond absurd thing to do and expect to get away with.
Bryan thought he could get away with it because he'd been getting away with it for a long time.

These high stakes people have so much money they don't necessarily keep close track.

Read-up on some of the Chip and Doyle stories of old.
10-10-2022 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
There was no look of surprise when she turned her hand over. She did not misread her hand.
This is why it is so suspicious that she came out days later with the claim that she misread her hand. It's like she realized she was caught and was scrambling for an excuse on how to explain her actions. Combine this with her instant decision to refund Garrett even though she claims that she didn't cheat.
10-10-2022 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
There was no look of surprise when she turned her hand over. She did not misread her hand.


Just because someone plays 'ok' for 600 hands does not mean they are not capable of blowing up and doing something crazy and irrational. I have seen regs open jamming trash pre or calling off with total trash from tilt. Anyone can blow up, let alone a female fish with an ego looking to prove herself and sick of getting 'bluffed by men all the time' as she said.
But Robbi was totally calm, cool, and collected throughout the J4 hand. Not even in the same universe as tilted.

      
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