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07-28-2012 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by oneonth3run
It's interesting that people who claim to have sources are saying the deal is a lock and some are saying it's dead. Shouldn't it be clear what the final sentence is at this point for those who do have legitimate insiders?
Everyone whose sources say the deal is dead are those who have PS/FTP sources, who were probably told that or asked to say that, while those whose sources would likely be DOJ/lawyers are all saying done deal - or 'real news next week'.
07-28-2012 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
I said I won't comment further about the tweet, because I can't answer all the questions like "does it mean x" or "does that mean y is happening" or "what about what z said". It has to stand as is for now.
what is the purpose of making that tweet in the first place, when you know you are going to get a barrage of questions you can't/wont answer?

To what end does it serve?

Because as far as I can see it doesn't do anything other than stir 2p2 up into a frenzy, for no reason.
07-28-2012 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by exoendo
It just really rubs me the wrong way.
Who in particular do you imagine gives a **** about how things rub you?
07-28-2012 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by exoendo
what is the purpose of making that tweet in the first place, when you know you are going to get a barrage of questions you can't/wont answer?

To what end does it serve?

Because as far as I can see it doesn't do anything other than stir 2p2 up into a frenzy, for no reason.
Compared to saying nothing, DF's tweet makes Wendeen's statement much more credible. You just need to put all the pieces together.
07-28-2012 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tall
Its also pretty clear that you are trying to push her buttons so she tells something.

I assure you, it will not work.
no, that's that what I am doing at all. I don't have the slightest belief that DF would magically pm me or share something just because of something I said in this thread.

The context of my post is quite clear. It should be interpreted as it is written.

DF likes the attention and holding stuff over our heads.

"Hey guys, REAL NEWS coming up! But can't tell you what it is!"

"lol what are these dumb sources? man some of the stuff is really inaccurate, why do you trust that stuff? oh p.s., can't tell you why they may be in error/inaccurate because sources"

"Did I mention I know way more than the rest of you?"

07-28-2012 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by exoendo
no, that's that what I am doing at all. I don't have the slightest belief that DF would magically pm me or share something just because of something I said in this thread.

The context of my post is quite clear. It should be interpreted as it is written.

DF likes the attention and holding stuff over our heads.

"Hey guys, REAL NEWS coming up! But can't tell you what it is!"

"lol what are these dumb sources? man some of the stuff is really inaccurate, why do you trust that stuff? oh p.s., can't tell you why they may be in error/inaccurate because sources"

"Did I mention I know way more than the rest of you?"
She wants her 15 minutes, let her have them, in the mean time go pop those champagne corks you've been saving.
07-28-2012 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond_Flush
All I will say is that I've written nothing just to be "competitive or manipulative". I said I won't comment further about the tweet, because I can't answer all the questions like "does it mean x" or "does that mean y is happening" or "what about what z said". It has to stand as is for now.
Sure being first is nice, but being right and doing the right thing is better.
Well, you deserve to be taken at your word.

I hope you believe me when I tell you that the effect it has had is to captivate everyone who is paying attention to this and keep us all on edge for a few more days.

We've been manipulated enough in this thing, and for most of us, you are the only one any of us can trust. I hope you appreciate how valuable that is, and how teasing us with information could seriously damage it.
07-28-2012 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
She wants her 15 minutes, let her have them, in the mean time go pop those champagne corks you've been saving.
im worried about aejone's tweet. I'm sick of getting slowrolled. How many times was the deal done only for the rug to be pulled out from under us?

I'm not happy until it's hyper confirmed.
07-28-2012 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
I guess I better start writing my apology to everyone whom I assured that the deal hadn't fallen apart, but I'm still cautiously optimistic.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with you STILL pushing your "Bitar had a deal to come in, FTP/PS deal wont be announced until certain people (but not others) are sentenced, etc" platform.

Nice attempt at spin tho!
07-28-2012 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by exoendo
To what end does it serve?
It serves making DF feel better about Wendeen scooping the **** out of her. DF will never admit this, but it was so blatantly obvious that this was the purpose of her tweet when it happened. The timing of it, the wording of it ("no speculation, no rumors, real news!"), the fact that she's never previously posted a "news coming in a few days" tweet, pretty much all of her tweets regarding her news articles are links to the articles as they are published. And don't mind the fact that she made sure and get a little dig in on Wendeen in her first post today.

Now of course she's in the tough position of being unable to clarify, while simultaneously doing her daily "pick off the low hanging fruit in the FTP thread" thing. And yes, that's going to rub people the wrong way. And in a few days, none of it will matter and we'll all have forgotten about it.

Of course, saying anything negative about DF is a one-way ticket to flame-street in this thread, but whatever.
07-28-2012 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tall
Its also pretty clear that you are trying to push her buttons so she tells something.

I assure you, it will not work.
Have to say, I loves me some Joe Tall <3
07-28-2012 , 05:49 AM
In today's edition of the FTP thread:

* People praise the reliability of Wendeen Eolis.
* Quote extensively from g911.
* Trash DF and PokerFuse.
* And ignore concrete legal developments.

A testament to how truly awful NVG is.
07-28-2012 , 05:58 AM
Wow, Not sure if I should smoke a cigarette or take a bath.
07-28-2012 , 06:03 AM
if her tweet ends up just being bad news or no real news i'm going to be very sad

also thank you FTPlayerNHell for saying everything i want to say
07-28-2012 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JA24
FTP points were friggin' worthless anyway.
Not true. I used to use them to enter Steps tournaments, then work up to Step 5 and buy into a $200+16 6-man SNG which were incredibly easy to beat. $3 worth of FTP points -----> $760 in about 3 hours.
07-28-2012 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedsToBeSaid
In today's edition of the FTP thread:

* People praise the reliability of Wendeen Eolis.
* Quote extensively from g911.
* Trash DF and PokerFuse.
* And ignore concrete legal developments.

A testament to how truly awful NVG is.
People trash pokerfuse LOL - I've found them to have very good coverage and are especially good @ reporting on the multitude of European issues and player impact of regulatory changes.

Friday was the opening of the Olympic games -from a PR sense most news outlets will be focused so IMO it's not a good day to release good news but it is a good one to release bad news (as it will be 'buried' ).

If there's going to be a big announcement I'm sure it will be everywhere.
D_F may not always be the fastest but will be the one that releases the most information rich articles that cover all the facts and details as D_F previously did with the GBT article
07-28-2012 , 06:05 AM
Is it just me or is it crazy coincidental that Wendeen Eolis and DF are both older women who have been writing about this whole saga.
07-28-2012 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TONZ
Is it just me or is it crazy coincidental that Wendeen Eolis and DF are both older women who have been writing about this whole saga.
From her bio, Eolis has played poker for a long time and she is the first woman to cash in the main event (1986). So it doesn't surprise me that she covers poker news.
I don't know anything about DF. Is she a poker player too?
07-28-2012 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TONZ
Is it just me or is it crazy coincidental that Wendeen Eolis and DF are both older women who have been writing about this whole saga.
So, what conclusion are you drawing?
07-28-2012 , 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by momo_the_kid
From her bio, Eolis has played poker for a long time and she is the first woman to cash in the main event (1986). So it doesn't surprise me that she covers poker news.
I don't know anything about DF. Is she a poker player too?
Prob busted with a diamond flush

Just sayin.......
07-28-2012 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MICK E JUICE
Prob busted with a diamond flush

Just sayin.......
LMAO
07-28-2012 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Posemuckel
So, what conclusion are you drawing?
I dont think they are the same person, I just think the odds of those similarities happening are very low
07-28-2012 , 06:39 AM
I couldn't care less if info came from a toilet flush, I hope everyone gets their money back.
07-28-2012 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtydiana73
I couldn't care less if info came from a toilet flush, I hope everyone gets their money back.
lol
07-28-2012 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedsToBeSaid
In today's edition of the FTP thread:

* People praise the reliability of Wendeen Eolis.
* Quote extensively from g911.
* Trash DF and PokerFuse.
* And ignore concrete legal developments.

A testament to how truly awful NVG is.
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