Yeah, agreed man.

He already is wrong. This is the second time he has done this. Are their no rules about blatant trolling for the forums?

You can't act like we are waiting to see what happens. He has once again lied to people / provided inaccurate information just to get attention.

I don't even have an money on FTP and I think it is awful he is being allowed to jerk people around with his trolling. It is super annoying that you mods are condoning and supporting blatant trolling. At the very least advise him not to post in this thread until something happens. Regardless of his announcement of information every subsequent post has been him trolling this thread.

Sure thing, I have no problem leaving this thread if tomorrow comes and goes with no announcement.

I will say this. I am taking a lot of heat which I'm fine with. But at the same time those who are just blasting me for bull****ting everyone aren't looking at everything as a whole this month from what I have reported. I haven't just made up a bunch of crap and posted it.

1. I was the first 1 to post this story of an impending announcement on the internet, May 1st to be exact. 10 days before anyone came up with the whole Before the "24th or 25th" or "End of the month" story.

2. My source was verified by a very credible person in the poker community. He would never lie for me just so I could trick the poker community into thinking I really have something.

Those 2 things right there can show you that I do indeed really have something. Unless you think I just made the whole thing up and 100s of other online media outlets copied me and then each other. I am sure there was some copying but some of these people have real info.

Some of the reports I have read have come from some very credible people as well so I am ruling out they are copying me especially when people I know that know people tell me they are hearing the same things as me from "deep sources" of theirs.

Even the guy who verified my source was told by a separate source this would be done by the 25th. But he also claimed potential for a delay due to complications and it looks like that could be the case right now.

I knew of a few potential complications last week but was told these would not get in the way and were the last stepping stones before an announcement.


Now on to #3

3. Yes I told you I was told there would be an announcement at the end of last week or the beginning of this week and I was told that the announcement was 99.9 % to take place. I firmly believed that and it hasn't happened yet.

I posted what I was told. I am sorry that hasn't happened within the time frame I was told BUT at the same time this same person told me to be patient it is coming.

I believed that for 2 reasons

1. My source gave me this story BEFORE anyone else had it. 10 days before anyone else

2. My source is SUPER LEGIT

That said just hang tight and I am hoping this gets announced sooner rather than later. We have been waiting for over a year for something. Tapie failed. Pokerstars in the picture is a GREAT thing and is likely our last chance to get paid in full.

That's it. I still firmly believe and am still being told that this deal is very close to being announced.

CELTICS FTW

GN

LAWLZ

Yes I did break the story of an announcement coming "in the timeframe of AROUND the 3rd week of may" before any news outlet

And about 1000 other outlets copied that or got the same story I did from their people so if you want to peg me as wrong then peg the rest of them as wrong too.

O.k... I thought about this.. I'm willing to put 10k at 1:1 that there is no announcement within 2 weeks that players will get paid back. I have 55k locked up so it's win win either way.. will you take the 10k bet?

My forum is down because the URL is being sent to a new forum that is being built and we are using that server.

Anyone that knows me or the other forum I post on could verify that and I have been posting updates about this for 2 months.


The link was in this thread and you can still find a cache of the post most likely.



If I was in the financial situation I was a year ago I would take this bet in a second. I have too much money wrapped up in other projects and other things to take a 10k bet right now

I don't think what he has done constitutes trolling, but I can see why someone might differ in that opinion. It's my opinion that he believes what he was told and honestly thought he was doing the community a favor/service by passing along the information.

Was that short-sighted? Probably, given his history. But that doesn't constitute trolling, IMO, and apparently no other NVG mod has thought so either, despite post reports that have reported him for trolling.

And I think it's unreasonable to expect him not to respond when people keep posting questions and/or attacks.

However, if everyone quits talking about him, then I'll instruct him not to post anything in this thread. I won't, however, tell him he's not allowed to respond to questions and/or defend himself against allegations, some of which have been pretty absurd, IMO.

I don't condone anything about this situation. I wish that he hadn't posted his information, or that EVERYONE could have been less lynch mob oriented and just said "LOL, aren't you the guy who used to post crap from Scott Matusow? I'm not listening to you" then let it go.

It took everyone to get to this point.

I really do hope China is right, but I'm curious - last week, a ton of money was supposedly booked against an announcement coming by now.... are those bets still on or did something happen? How much do you stand to gain/lose?

Seriously this whole argument is SO DUMB. It is completely pointless if you are the first to break a story that doesn't even turn out to be real. If it turns out to be real(and I'm rooting for you), then kudos for getting the inside scoop and giving us a little taste of what is to come.

I'm fine waiting it out till the end of the week to see what transpires, not gonna call for your head if it doesn't work. Oh well everyone who has reported any sort of deadline in the last year has been wrong. I mean I hope you are right and I'm optimistic, though most of my optimism comes from the DOJ apparently negotiating with someone else during the Tapei discussions and then turning down a deal that more than likely would have gotten the players a substantial amount of their account balances back even if the plan was ridiculous and time consuming.

I'm also pretty sure every DOJ settlement whether it be Neteller or PartyPoker has been higher than the current funds owed to US Players, so I'm fairly optimistic that even if no FTP deal goes through, US Players will be seeing some/all of their money if/when Pokerstars finally settles with the DOJ.

The most irritating part about this whole thread is all of the doomsayers that are freerolling the crap out of everyone that has a stake in this decision. Crapping on everyone for the entirety of this dilemma only to vanish if/when a deal does come through.

I don't think he's a troll, I just think he's preternaturally easily deluded, and whatever misinformation anyone wants to pass off as good information, is best done so when fed through chinamaniac, because he easily believes what he's told.

Possibly. In any event, he's on his last strike and he knows that. If this falls through and he ever tries to post "insider information" again, he knows he will be banned.

Not because he's been wrong, but because after this last chance it's obvious it's too disruptive for him to do so. At that point if he tried again, I'd say that was trolling. Or something.

You're doing any awesome job at proving your point... ever thought of being a lawyer china?

What will happen to ROW balances in this situation?

I'd say they are just as important as US funds.... if one gets paid we all get paid.

Reason why the GBT failed was because GBT would not commit to paying the ROW players in a reasonable time frame. Based on that, I think its safe to say DOJ is looking after all the players

My source has confirmed no announce this week.
100% serious

Stfu

My sources have confirmed 100% certainty of the falsehood of all sources claiming 100% certainty.

Idc if you believe me or not.

Come Monday I expect an apology

You'd think on a poker forum people would be able to understand the basics of results oriented biases in the outcome of events.

Regardless of if Monday comes with no announcement, or if they announce something in the next 25 seconds your baseless predictions are in no way proven or disproven.

Any idea as to when we can expect an announcement?

Can someone take down the absurd AGCC poll on this thread? It seems so damn meaningless to the current issues and is just bizarre to see when opening the thread.

You are now my new favorite poster, apologies to Kevmode.



Keep up the good work!

Yeah, there's no way in the software to do that. Happened when I merged another random FTP related thread that had a poll into the containment thread. Sorry, but nothing we can do AFAIK.

Says Tapie. Recouping money for players is on the list just not sure how far down. The reason the Tapie deal fell apart is because the doj had nothing to gain from a partial Tapie payout. They potentially do from stars. The deal is complicated because neither stasis or the doj have a primary goal of repaying players. That is a secondary goal.