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01-23-2021 , 11:45 AM

#7701

mrno1324

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 3,055

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Treesong

DN was quite clear in his post-match interview that he has thrown GTO sizing out the window in favor of a higher-variance approach. He characterized his own play last night as "terrible" and "lucky" and readily agreed that DP is a "better player."

haha it's easy to be generous and humble when you beat someone down for 10 buyins.

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01-23-2021 , 11:51 AM

#7702

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

DNegs is just being nice to the fish to keep his action ldo

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01-23-2021 , 12:30 PM

#7703

Howard Treesong

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 13,738

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrno1324

haha it's easy to be generous and humble when you beat someone down for 10 buyins.

He has said in every one of his podcasts for the last six weeks that Doug is a better player at HU NLH online. DN believes, however, that he would beat DP live because he can read live tells better than DP can.

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01-23-2021 , 12:40 PM

#7704

Kid-A

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 287

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Treesong

I can believe that it'd be harder to pull the trigger on multiple overbluff/pot sized bluffs on the river live than online in the manner that Doug has been doing.

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01-23-2021 , 12:46 PM

#7705

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,280

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid-A

I can believe that it'd be harder to pull the trigger on multiple overbluff/pot sized bluffs on the river live than online in the manner that Doug has been doing.

Yea Doug doesn't do that stuff live

(PA overbet the river here, pot was 60k. PA 90k, Doug 300k)

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01-23-2021 , 01:10 PM

#7706

CoreySteel

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,895

Graphs with all-in EV:

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01-23-2021 , 01:53 PM

#7707

Howard Treesong

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 13,738

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid-A

I can believe that it'd be harder to pull the trigger on multiple overbluff/pot sized bluffs on the river live than online in the manner that Doug has been doing.

I think DN's point is different -- it's not that DP will play differently, but rather that DP has tells that DN can and will exploit.

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01-23-2021 , 02:47 PM

#7708

SizzlerFTW

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,368

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreySteel

Graphs with all-in EV:

Siiiiick

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01-23-2021 , 02:49 PM

#7709

BDHarrison

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 4,532

DN is a cooler of a session away from being a cooler of a session away from taking the lead.

I think poker benefits more from an improbable come-from-behind win by DN. If we were writing a Hollywood movie about poker, DN is the guy who should win.

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01-23-2021 , 03:13 PM

#7710

deuceblocker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 4,827

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loctus

Yea Doug doesn't do that stuff live

(PA overbet the river here, pot was 60k. PA 90k, Doug 300k)

Yeh, I watched that hand now. Polk leads and calls a raise on the turn. Then I guess checkraises the river when it is likely PA has a huge hand. He explains the turn lead in terms of what he does with his range and his calling the turn raise and raising the river in terms of blockers. Unfortunately he didn't block 86. Also interesting Antonius overbets the river with a straight on a paired board.

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01-23-2021 , 03:16 PM

#7711

dingdongdonkey

banned

Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 1,061

-4.28 ev BB/100 is basically break-even. Seems like Polk has to stress that he "ran bad" given that his win rate vs an alleged fish is actually embarassing.

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01-23-2021 , 03:36 PM

#7712

deuceblocker

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 4,827

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDHarrison

That would be a great story if DN won as a 6-1 underdog to start and down over $1M and how well known DN is by the general public. Factor in also the attitudes ITT and elsewhere. If man bites dog that's news.

It is possible DN agreed to these terms thinking he had a shot to win, and how big it would be for his endorsement contract, video sales, etc. if he won or even came close.

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01-23-2021 , 04:39 PM

#7713

MeleaB

See my Commercial Software thread

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,415

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDHarrison

Very few Hollywood movies have the deranged, self-obsessed, egotistical, narcissistical, weasel-like, bad guy winning.

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01-23-2021 , 04:39 PM

#7714

persianpunisher

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,913

Yeah, Daniel has an incredibly difficult time getting masterclass sales and endorsement deals. Needs to battle a HU boss risking a million+ for more clout. 4D chess.

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01-23-2021 , 04:46 PM

#7715

SandraXII

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,114

Seems like when the discussion comes back to live play there is always someone still talking about ‘live tells’ making DN a favourite lol.

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01-23-2021 , 04:51 PM

#7716

golfbum983

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,943

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandraXII

Seems like when the discussion comes back to live play there is always someone still talking about ‘live tells’ making DN a favourite lol.

Well it does, so I don’t get what’s funny about it..... are you saying there is no such thing of live tells?

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01-23-2021 , 05:05 PM

#7717

lonely_but_rich

ɔarpal \ʇunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 23,431

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Originally Posted by SandraXII

Seems like when the discussion comes back to live play there is always someone still talking about ‘live tells’ making DN a favourite lol.

You're skeptical of live tells? I consider myself an expert.

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01-23-2021 , 05:19 PM

#7718

loK2thabrain

Tiger > Jack

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,204

Yesterday was ~10 buy-in win, which in HU is no big deal. It only seems noteworthy to casuals because Daniel never plays long enough to allow Doug to win that much in one session.

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01-23-2021 , 05:37 PM

#7719

lolwasntme

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 259

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Originally Posted by loK2thabrain

Yesterday was ~10 buy-in win, which in HU is no big deal. It only seems noteworthy to casuals because Daniel never plays long enough to allow Doug to win that much in one session.

Eh?

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01-23-2021 , 05:51 PM

#7720

pocket_zeros

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01-23-2021 , 05:52 PM

#7721

persianpunisher

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Doug is such a tell box. Dnegs gonna crush him live. so many live reads. will make up for lack of strat for sure. 10/10. genius. doug no chance live. Covfefe.

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01-23-2021 , 06:19 PM

#7722

SizzlerFTW

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Quote:

Originally Posted by persianpunisher

Doug is such a tell box. Dnegs gonna crush him live. so many live reads. will make up for lack of strat for sure. 10/10. genius. doug no chance live. Covfefe.

Yes Doug always breaks the Oreo cookie when he has a big hand.