Doug winning at something like 18bb so far ?

Interesting post-game interview. Just seems like he needs to drop a few stakes, become a proven winning HU player, then take Doug back on.

Why do people always make things so difficult.

Uncle Ron, Hanks, Little - not sure who's worse. The GG stream has become unwatchable regardless of who they bring in. Platt's and Tardif's high pitched "yeahs" and "I don't knows" tilted me no end.

On days like today it looked a bit over the top, shoving or overbetting into DN when he had hands to call down with the main reason the loss was 4 bi and not 1-2.

hahah

My solver is bigger/faster/longer/better than your solver.

I feel like this is also the reason he has days where he wins 4-5 buyins instead of 1-2. When you play a super aggressive strategy your opponent is going to have it sometimes. Not much you can do about that. But you’re also going to get paid off more and your red line is going to be superb. Just part of his playstyle I’m sure he’s accepted long ago.

I read the hand.

This reminds me of a video Doug Polk made actually. He was commenting on a hand where both players had strong hands, and lots of people were saying things like 'this is never a bluff, he always has it'....'definite fold', and Doug explained..,well that's an assumption, what if he doesn't have it? You lose to one hand. One combo. You have to call. I can probably find that video if you want.

So yeah, no intention to annoy anyone, but if I have the Queen flush there and I got raised, I will call from Doug's position. And if everyone will fold to a raise there, then I bet any two cards from DNegs position, because it's +EV. Can you think of a situation where you bet and everyone folds unless they have one combo that is -EV?

starting to believe in karma

Would you call a 5-bet with the Queen as well? How about a 6-bet?

You need at least an 11-bet pot to narrow his range down enough to fold, assuming the rake is high enough.

When the challenge first started, I was watching the GG stream. Then Hanks appearance plus Kaki's full dive into "I hate everyone" turned me off it. Tried watching upswing a few times but the complete (and of course expected) lack of any semblance of objectivity turned me off that too.

Thank god for Joey Ingram. Watch Joey's stream, then flip over to gg for Daniel's post game interview, and the whole thing is great.

Can't find the playing schedule, are they done for the next week or so? Would think Daniel would want to keep playing after a good session.

There is one SF combo and many many third-nut combos with the Q of the suit and any other card. Maybe I'm just not seeing this right, but I don't think the third nuts is an autofold here. Then again, my lifetime work with solvers is about six unproductive hours, so I know nothing. If Doug can call at some frequency with the Q, then DN should be raising at least some of the time with the nut flush.

I'd be interested to what a solver guru says after working with this hand a while. Interesting spot. Putting myself in DN's shoes, I'm likely to raise the nut flush and call it off if raised.

I'm afraid at the moment I'll have to decline the challenge.

DN said they're taking next week off and they're back on the week after for one or two sessions (i think) and then a couple more between christmas and the new year.

According to Upswing, next session Mon. Dec 21.

Are they still going to 12.5K hands or planning to do more?

Dnegs sounds AMPED to play 25k. Either he gets it close and thinks he has a good chance of being up overall or he keeps getting smacked and wants to play long enough for variance to "correct" itself.

I would guess 25k minimum

Do you really think Polk is calling with a Queen after Dnegs overall trappy style?

He shouldn't raise the K, but if he does he should probably raise some non flushes as well for balance.

DN has said he is not quitting at 12.5.

I do this as well, daniels post match interviews are much better when he has a losing session though

Doug has shown time and time again he's willing to call shoves with less than the 2nd nuts.

He said this post-session yesterday:

“If the cards broke even, this match would be very close”