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12-14-2020 , 01:56 PM

#6301

inmyrav

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,721

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Originally Posted by TRUSTtheDRAWCESS

I saw Daniel Negreanu .... After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

There really should be a 'don't be a douchebag to any person ever or you will lose your American citizenship'.

****ing ingrateful millionaire.

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12-14-2020 , 02:06 PM

#6302

SrslySirius

Animated Character

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,364

bro you ate the pasta

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12-14-2020 , 02:59 PM

#6303

Toupee Jay

adept

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 772

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Originally Posted by TreadLightly

#hybridpoker dnegs/perkins camp is working hard in the off time, have no fear perkins is going to run the spot!

Only an idiot would ask questions like this. No wonder Polk is cleaning his clock!

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12-14-2020 , 03:28 PM

#6304

dingdongdonkey

banned

Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 1,061

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Originally Posted by TreadLightly

#hybridpoker dnegs/perkins camp is working hard in the off time, have no fear perkins is going to run the spot!

I'm confused by the statement that K4 isn't blocking the nuts. The ultimate nuts in this spot is daily quads, so having K4 in your hand provides you with the the information that the second nuts is the *actual* nuts in this situation and it enables you to put villain into a pretty bad spot if you chose to go for it (eg overbet river for 400,000x pot lmao). Now clearly Perkins is a clown, but he is (technically) correct here, no?

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12-14-2020 , 04:25 PM

#6305

harkin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4,858

I thought that since he shoves $2 milly on a $5 pot every time you fold and wait for the nuts.

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12-14-2020 , 05:25 PM

#6306

alberthofmann

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 674

What is dnegs trying to accomplish. Next tweet will be a s1ck ev calculation using equities for the call and then he shows that it would be a -200$ EV call and everyone would be really impressed about the sick math.

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12-14-2020 , 06:19 PM

#6307

freedom 35

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 580

It's because he is legitimately learning some of this stuff for the first time and is passing on his fascination to his his twitter followers under the guise that he is the teacher.

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12-14-2020 , 06:25 PM

#6308

alberthofmann

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 674

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey

U have 99.999% with AA in that spot vs 100% river range, meanwhile k4 only has 99%, almost 1% eq difference. So don't know what Perkins said, obv AA much better call then k4, under the premise that 100% range is shoved on the river....

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12-14-2020 , 06:29 PM

#6309

Bighurt52235

I was born to eat hamburgers

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24,130

Quote:

Originally Posted by harkin

I thought that since he shoves $2 milly on a $5 pot every time you fold and wait for the nuts.

The guy is shipping every hand. You're not risking $2M to win $5.

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12-14-2020 , 06:49 PM

#6310

Dick Tracy

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,796

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolli2013

Who is this Perkins?

Watch this cash game session onward if you want a good idea on Perkins as a poker mind.

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12-14-2020 , 07:06 PM

#6311

bandin

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,876

A more interesting question—and perhaps the one DNegs meant to ask—is if villain's only available betsize with his range is all-in.

He has the option to check hands too, which, for a 400000x overbet, I suspect would be happening at quite a high frequency.

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12-14-2020 , 08:04 PM

#6312

Real_

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 332

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandin

-you slowly pull the cigar from your mouth and study the ember
-counting your chips and breaking down a stack
-"so... do you have it?"
-you dart up a half second later and meet their eyes to catch the micro expression
-no reply
-they don't have it
-"I re-raise 10 million"

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12-14-2020 , 09:03 PM

#6313

Wilbury Twist

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 6,410

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Tracy

Watch this cash game session onward if you want a good idea on Perkins as a poker mind.

Ha, funny episode to include amidst all of the recent strategy discussion.

After paying off a value bet on a board of AT23A, Phil Laak says he should have turned his QT into an all-in bluff raise because the Loose Cannon (who had A4) would probably have to fold as strong as 45.

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12-14-2020 , 09:28 PM

#6314

gh0ulpatrol

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 450

Did they ever explain why they were taking the week off for a tournament that neither of them are currently in, that finishes today?

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12-14-2020 , 09:36 PM

#6315

snowie963

banned

Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 1,484

that little Italian guy was awesome

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12-14-2020 , 09:42 PM

#6316

Keruli

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 880

the discussion around the K4/AA perkins twitter riddle is very strange and idiotic.

and imo the shoving range with infinite stacks should be 44 and for bluffs/balance mainly A4...and then maybe some worse 4X is mixed in i guess?

Last edited by Keruli; 12-14-2020 at 09:48 PM.

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12-14-2020 , 10:55 PM

#6317

kimoser22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,839

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey

yeah def a strange question, though he is correct that it would be better to have K4 than AA although you would fold both almost all the time.

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12-14-2020 , 10:55 PM

#6318

Dick Tracy

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,796

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

lol I missed him saying that until you pointed it out.

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Originally Posted by snowie963

that little Italian guy was awesome

He was handsdown the most talented Loose Cannon on the series.

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12-14-2020 , 10:57 PM

#6319

kimoser22

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,839

Quote:

Originally Posted by alberthofmann

I'm assuming that most people wouldn't shove full range on the river (unless somehow I missed that)

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12-14-2020 , 11:26 PM

#6320

harkin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4,858

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh0ulpatrol

Did they ever explain why they were taking the week off for a tournament that neither of them are currently in, that finishes today?

IIRC it was something to do with birthday plans for Doug and his gf.

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12-14-2020 , 11:33 PM

#6321

Bighurt52235

I was born to eat hamburgers

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24,130

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimoser22

I'm assuming that most people wouldn't shove full range on the river (unless somehow I missed that)

Its literally in the tweet.

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12-14-2020 , 11:34 PM

#6322

Badreg2017

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 1,686

K4 is probably the better call. If we have K4, we know he’s not only shoving the nuts here and very likely has a spazz range. If we have K4, we know this guy might just be shoving for the lolz. If we have AA, we could be against someone who is only shoving quads.

The argument for AA is that it unblocks V from having a 4, the most likely hand someone would “bluff” with for the lolz knowing we could never call. I understand AA is a stronger hand, but I’m not terribly worried about running into 88 going for some weird ass value play. I would still rather have K4.

Last edited by Badreg2017; 12-14-2020 at 11:39 PM.