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08-23-2014 , 01:34 PM

#676

BiggerBoots

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Originally Posted by smokybacon

You said 100nl and 200nl regs suck, then you said how delusional people are for not knowing how hard poker is.

So it's hard to beat suckers? If not, why aren't you crushing 100nl and 200nl already?

He said people are delusional at how hard poker is..meaning they think it is harder than it is..

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08-23-2014 , 01:37 PM

#677

Grond

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Originally Posted by Calm Down

lol hello dr phil

you said it yourself he would win IF he got coaching. while i do agree with that, it still leaves some variables. how many hours would he get coaching and from who? how big of a sample would he need to play?

but as you mentioned coaching yourself, we have clearly establishes he would not be +ev straight jumping into ssnl. this was what i was saying in the first place

He would win at 100 nl. would win at 200 nl.

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08-23-2014 , 01:41 PM

#678

KINGDMER

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Originally Posted by BiggerBoots

He said people are delusional at how hard poker is..meaning they think it is harder than it is..

ty - someone with a brain

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08-23-2014 , 01:49 PM

#679

psychosocial

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lol @ making $150k a year at nl100 thats about $72 an hour win rate if you play a 40 hour week

rake, variance, small buy ins, hit and runners, overall money pool. why not play 25/50 then, you could probably pull in $1m a year right?

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08-23-2014 , 02:00 PM

#680

omgonedirection

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Daniel would not be able to beat 50nl on pokerstars over a large sample, imo.

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08-23-2014 , 02:26 PM

#681

5=2+2

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Originally Posted by psychosocial

I know. Such a lol-fest. Roughly an average of well over 400bb profit per day, every day for 365. Dude think's it's 2007.

No one in the World could do this now @ 100NL.

Silly talk.

I've got 5k that says there won't be any graph appearing either to prove it. Not a very brave bet from me though, is it?

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08-23-2014 , 02:32 PM

#682

KINGDMER

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Originally Posted by 5=2+2

if i played 6k hands/day i could. But why would anyone want to- its simple. If ur good you move up stakes. If your ok you stay stakes. If you bad you lose money.

but yeah what that guy is claiming is just lol. So many idiot dolts lol

++ you wouldnt have a life either

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08-23-2014 , 02:39 PM

#683

Auca32

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Originally Posted by psychosocial

Are you talking to me? If you are, I never said I could make 100-150k a year playing 100 nl lol. I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about mtts/sngs because I used the word roi in the same sentence. Most good regs at mid stakes mtts could grind out 100k a year by playing 16+ tables of 180/45 turbo sngs + mtts.

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08-23-2014 , 02:45 PM

#684

KINGDMER

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Originally Posted by Auca32

Are you talking to me? If you are, I never said I could make 100-150k a year playing 100 nl. I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about mtts/sngs because I used the word roi in the same sentence. Most good regs at mid stakes mtts could grind out 100k a year by playing 180/45 turbo sngs.

'most' - lol r u fkn ******ed

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08-23-2014 , 02:52 PM

#685

Auca32

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Originally Posted by KINGDMER

'most' - lol r u fkn ******ed

Are you? I said most --> GOOD <-- regs. Try doing the math with a good roi playing 20 tables 180/45 man turbo at 15 dollars (and 35/60 dollar when they run) + regular mtt schedule and tell me why you don't think so?

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08-23-2014 , 02:57 PM

#686

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Originally Posted by Auca32

oh lol for some reason i read it as in there would be a lot of regs who could do this - so yes i am ******ed.

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08-23-2014 , 03:16 PM

#687

permus4210

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Daniel negreanu couldnt beat me at live or online. Thats a bet

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08-23-2014 , 03:22 PM

#688

mark32607

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Originally Posted by TimStone

There is very slight chance he could beat 100zoom straight away and literally no chance he could beat 200z+ straight away and not even after 2 weeks or w/e.
I would instabet 10k against if he would have to play something like 100k hands a month.

Also i have no clue why regs who actually play those games bother discussing with some busto nvg guys.

I mean that one guy claims he can teach a friend without any pokerknowledge to beat 100zoom in 2weeks. Alone this statement makes it pretty obvious there is no way he could beat 100zoom himself...

Its 2014 ffs

LMFAO! You can't be serious? Now 100nl zoom is too tough for anyone to beat? Give me a ****ing break man if it's hard for you to beat 100nl you are a below average player. Any decent player can beat it in their sleep and I could teach my 8yr son to beat it in a heartbeat.

What's next 5nl is just impossible to beat and you would bet your roll that DN could never beat it without a year of training?

This is getting out of hand these games are not as hard as you think. I made 4 max buyins last night playing 400nl while getting blackout wasted.

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08-23-2014 , 03:35 PM

#689

trup_qq

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Can we end the pissing contest about speculative winrates and go back to bashing DNegs for being full of himself???

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08-23-2014 , 03:58 PM

#690

Dadonk612

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Originally Posted by mark32607

LMFAO! You can't be serious? Now 100nl zoom is too tough for anyone to beat? Give me a ****ing break man if it's hard for you to beat 100nl you are a below average player. Any decent player can beat it in their sleep and I could teach my 8yr son to beat it in a heartbeat.

What's next 5nl is just impossible to beat and you would bet your roll that DN could never beat it without a year of training?

This is getting out of hand these games are not as hard as you think. I made 4 max buyins last night playing 400nl while getting blackout wasted.

Well I guess that settles it then

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08-23-2014 , 04:14 PM

#691

molinn9

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Originally Posted by trup_qq

Can we end the pissing contest about speculative winrates and go back to bashing DNegs for being full of himself???

very true,, but in his def every top athletic in the world has great self confidence its part of greatness

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08-23-2014 , 04:19 PM

#692

mark32607

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Originally Posted by Dadonk612

Well I guess that settles it then

Yes it does. I'll be doing it again tonight so if you wanna sit at my table I'll be on Bovada, my screen name is player 4.

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08-23-2014 , 04:30 PM

#693

imactually12

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[ ] bovada is similar to stars

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08-23-2014 , 04:37 PM

#694

valee

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Originally Posted by Auca32

I agree that DN's statement is unrealistic but some of you guys are really overdoing how tough cash games are online (except for high stakes).

100nl/200nl is still pretty soft. Most regs are playing pretty straight forward and I'm 100% sure DN EASILY could crush those stakes without any practice (and 400nl/600nl too with a little practice). I'm positive I could teach a friend who knows nothing about poker how to beat 100nl in two weeks.

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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh

The DN couldn't beat 100NL comments are probably more absurd than him thinking he could beat 25/50.

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Originally Posted by suboptimal

Could we see your 100NL+ graphs? If DN would begin 100NL+ (let's say at least 400 hands/hour) without any preparation, there is no way he would beat it. Maybe 100z for a small sample. But as I asked, just post your 2014 pokerstars graphs please.

And the comments about beating nl400-600 with little practice could not be more ridiculous.

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08-23-2014 , 04:42 PM

#695

smokybacon

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Originally Posted by mark32607

LMFAO! You can't be serious? Now 100nl zoom is too tough for anyone to beat? Give me a ****ing break man if it's hard for you to beat 100nl you are a below average player. Any decent player can beat it in their sleep and I could teach my 8yr son to beat it in a heartbeat.

What's next 5nl is just impossible to beat and you would bet your roll that DN could never beat it without a year of training?

This is getting out of hand these games are not as hard as you think. I made 4 max buyins last night playing 400nl while getting blackout wasted.

Come on, if you're going to troll at least put some effort in.

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08-23-2014 , 04:43 PM

#696

valee

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Originally Posted by Auca32

I do. I have played plenty of 100/200 nl zoom myself and I found it pretty easy to beat. There's plenty of fish at those levels who make up for the high rake and most of the regulars are pretty bad too. If you can't beat 100nl zoom, you either a) are bad at deductive reasoning, b) have serious tilt issues or c) haven't put in the time to study/think about the game (or are doing it wrong).

I think most regular poker players tend think poker is a lot harder than it actually is and only the most intelligent players come out on top. But reality is that most intelligent people (who easily could be winners) just don't care enough about winning to spent countless hours on studying and playing the game.

Making 100-300k playing mid stakes might be a dream for you but for most intelligent people the long term money/happiness ev of getting a good education is a lot higher than sitting in front of your computer all day every day doing the same thing without socializing, contributing anything to society and not learning anything on your "job" besides poker related things.

Based on my roi, I could be making 100-150k tax free a year (and probably more if I worked hard on getting better) instead of studying but I wouldn't dream of playing poker for a living. Why do you think so many high stakes players talk about quitting poker at some point and say they wouldn't recommend playing poker for a living? Of course people are different and I'm sure some people really enjoy playing poker for a living and the freedom that comes with it but most people who are smart enough to go pro would rather spent their lives on other things.

200z graph lets goooooooo genius

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08-23-2014 , 05:07 PM

#697

suboptimal

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LOL @ DN having no preparation. Obviously, he's new to the game.

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08-23-2014 , 05:34 PM

#698

ChristianT

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this thread has no more point

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08-23-2014 , 05:50 PM

#699

The Muffin Man

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Originally Posted by mark32607

This is getting out of hand these games are not as hard as you think. I made 4 max buyins last night playing 400nl while getting blackout wasted.

Hmmm.

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Originally Posted by MrSpew

confirmed 100nl/200nl being pretty easy, i started coaching my friend 2 months ago (he was a losing live reg) and his already one of the best players at this level, he will easily make 5figs next year but he says he wants to move on from poker because its to easy for him, whatever though more money for me.

Ballin!

I'd take a random 200z reg over a random 5/10 live player any day. Online poker (and Stars especially) is pretty tough these days.