lol hello dr phil

you said it yourself he would win IF he got coaching. while i do agree with that, it still leaves some variables. how many hours would he get coaching and from who? how big of a sample would he need to play?

but as you mentioned coaching yourself, we have clearly establishes he would not be +ev straight jumping into ssnl. this was what i was saying in the first place

Spoken as someone who clearly doesn't win at 100/200nl himself. Lol at taking a few lessons and jumping in and being a snap winner. Also, stop with the strawmen. Saying that the learning curve to win is longer than 2 weeks != saying you must be a genius to win at it. It's like anything else, you build up experience first and have to learn first. Having said that though I don't even think DN would win at 25/50nl+ after years of studying if at all.

nl 100 zoom confirmed unbeatable ITT

How do all people in this thread know how hard 25/50 is, have you ever played there?
Can anyone give us a little info on the 25/50 players, would isildur1, durrr and phil ivey crush those stakes or even breakeven?

Can you read?

lol- they would lose tons #degens

Pretty sure a 25/50 6-max table on stars would insta-fill if isildur durr or ivey sat at it. You'd have to get a guy like Galfond or something in order to have people not sit..

yeh and it's hilarious how much you overestimate the abilities of the zoom player pool at SSNL. granted I only play HU these days but I feel very confident that I'd beat z 100/z 200 quite easily after 2 or 3 weeks of getting used to 6 max again.

You're contradicting yourself.

so you're an online nlhe hu reg

dn isnt

jfc is everyone on nvg a troll?

I do. I have played plenty of 100/200 nl zoom myself and I found it pretty easy to beat. There's plenty of fish at those levels who make up for the high rake and most of the regulars are pretty bad too. If you can't beat 100nl zoom, you either a) are bad at deductive reasoning, b) have serious tilt issues or c) haven't put in the time to study/think about the game (or are doing it wrong).

I think most regular poker players tend think poker is a lot harder than it actually is and only the most intelligent players come out on top. But reality is that most intelligent people (who easily could be winners) just don't care enough about winning to spent countless hours on studying and playing the game.

Making 100-300k playing mid stakes might be a dream for you but for most intelligent people the long term money/happiness ev of getting a good education is a lot higher than sitting in front of your computer all day every day doing the same thing without socializing, contributing anything to society and not learning anything on your "job" besides poker related things.

Based on my roi, I could be making 100-150k tax free a year (and probably more if I worked hard on getting better) instead of studying but I wouldn't dream of playing poker for a living. Why do you think so many high stakes players talk about quitting poker at some point and say they wouldn't recommend playing poker for a living? Of course people are different and I'm sure some people really enjoy playing poker for a living and the freedom that comes with it but most people who are smart enough to go pro would rather spent their lives on other things.

There's absolutely no contradiction present.

Post graph or cant beat 2c/5c

i must be really out of touch, understand durrrr and maybe isi but hard to believe ivey couldn't adapt and win given he has a slew of pros w/ ivey poker and he's crushed online in the past. Ivey just had galfond posting hands w/ him on rio

Not sure if you missed my post above. I was an MTT reg, then played just Sundays with little to no work on my game for a few years (probably not a winner in 100r's and tougher stuff, especially towards the end) then started beating 100 zoom right away 1.5ish years ago.

I watched the interview on PokerNews, and DN sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat, and probably he can. Why the hell would he want to take such a time consuming project on, when he can tweet all the BS he wants all day long. Yeah, he's a great all time poker player, but he never accomplished he big goal of successful day time TV talk show host.

Yes please post graph. 100z and 200 z on PS today is filled with former midstakes crushers and being a legit winner at 500z pretty much means you are a very good poker player...
So claiming to beat zoom games right away is pretty much claiming u can do in an instant what other professionals can do only after havng spent years honing their craft. .. Pretty bold claim.

Back up your claims.

Post a graph

I'm not as confident about ivey as durr and isildur fwiw. Deep I would definitely take ivey over an AVERAGE 25/50 lineup but 100bb I think he'd run into problems nowadays.

doesnt mean anything, you already had an online nlhe background so you have a better understanding of huds/stats and how to use them, basic game theory and poker fundamentals than dn currently has

cliffs please ?

Only saw vids of Negreanu and polk.

Is there a bet going on or still nothing ?

You said 100nl and 200nl regs suck, then you said how delusional people are for not knowing how hard poker is.

So it's hard to beat suckers? If not, why aren't you crushing 100nl and 200nl already?

a high volume SSNL reg can probably make as much if not more than table selecting MSNL reg

fyp , i am.

confirmed 100nl/200nl being pretty easy, i started coaching my friend 2 months ago (he was a losing live reg) and his already one of the best players at this level, he will easily make 5figs next year but he says he wants to move on from poker because its to easy for him, whatever though more money for me.