Sigh, NVGaments.

You have it backwards, btw.

I guess it depends what stakes we're talking about... would be tough to imagine someone making more than DN has without playing at least high stakes though.

why do some people assume that posters in ITT are hating on Daniel just because they disagree with something he has claimed?

I think he is great and one of the best guys for poker but in my opinion he is deluded with his twitter statement

Someone even more delusional than Daniel.

I just find it hilarious, people who have accomplished much less than DN, are speculating about what he can or cannot do without much solid evidence

this is what colman did

and guess what

There is a lot of evidence

He hasn't played high stake online NLHE in years and has never really had any real results in the games when he did play. He has had success in tournaments and mixed games zero real results to talk about ever in online cash

Do you have any idea how hard the top top high stakes NLHE stars player have to work on the game to even be able to compete at this level it has taken them years of graft and they play as perfect as you could play without having solved the game

Some of the top players in these games have even tweeted him saying they would snap up his action and find his comments absurd

he says he just need 2 weeks to tune up his game this is the funniest part of all What major changes does he seriously think he can make in this timeframe?

As for accomplishing less than him what has that got to do with it? Do you have to be a accomplishedl athlete to realise that Usain Bolt has a huge edge vs anyone in the world in the 200m

I'm talking about mid stakes not high stakes. There were people claiming he couldn't beat mid stakes. I would not be surprised if he couldn't beat high stakes, as those stakes would still be worthwhile for him to play if he is profitable at them... but he doesn't play them.

I may have missed it (didn't read whole thread) but I don't think he's posted in this thread

He meant Colman, one of the best HU SNG players in the world, decided "Hey, why not play some MTTs, those players are awful." Sure enough, an online HU SNG player (not a tournament player) beats the fabled DNegs HU for $15 Milly. Tournaments are one of the easiest forms of poker.... Being good at them has absolutely no correlation with being good at online cash games. Sure it helps, but they are entirely different skill sets. Like I said, being a good QB doesn't make you a good RB. There is absolutely no correlation between the 2 besides both being football players.... same thing applies here.

It's a game of math and Negs doesn't even know this.

Laughable.

They are 100% correct. I'll go a step further: he couldn't beat 1/2 zoom.

I understand your point, and I'm well aware MTTs & cash games are two very different animals.

The point I'm making is that you don't just go out and repeatedly, year after year, win 7 figure prizes playing MTTs without being a very smart and good player in general.

DN doesn't need to play cash games to be very successful, so it's unsurprising that his cash game skills may be lacking compared to his tournament skills. I would be totally unsurprised if DN was a top cash game player if MTTs did not exist.

Nobody is questioning how good he is at poker or how smart he is, they're questioning how delusional you have to be to think you can beat some of the biggest games online VS some of the best players in the world when you don't even play cash games.

In 2 weeks of preparation none the less.... like most of these guys aren't very intelligent and haven't been spending hour upon hour perfecting online cash for the last however many years.

Were still talking about NLHE here though lol, he might not play cash games but he has excelled at NLHE for years. He still wont beat the games at that level, maybe if he started around 2/4-3/6 he could work his way up within a year or two though.

I'm not sure you know how tournament poker works...

Find this amusingly inaccurate.

Live poker, the game DN has made his poker $ from, is a complex game of people with a math component. There are so many other facets & dimensions of live poker that have very little to do with math-components that DN has mastered thru years of play and with innate skill.

Do I think he would be a dog on this prop bet? Yes, absolutely.

But to minimize his understanding of the game based on a limited point of view is way off base.

I bet that I can bang Jessica Alba in the next 7 days. Min bet is 1 billion US

The whole live poker players have a 6th sense, can see the twinkle in their opponent's eye, and form sicko reads is thoroughly debunked nonsense. Online players that jump into live tournaments have more success because they're better at poker and the game isn't about putting someone on 1 hand.

I think you're giving far too much credit to donkament pros. It's more like saying Billy from little league should play for the Yankees because he's the best one on his team.

He has

post # please? Cant find it.

No one would take your bet, because I already banged her in less time...

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Plus a few twitter posts I cbf to find (don't use twitter)

BTW you're wrong about him not being able to beat micros a few years ago. I guess that specific challenge failed, but he jumped into $100/200 stars a couple of years ago and pretty quickly it went from huge waitlists to a couple of empty seats. Many HS players commented on how good he got. I think he's a huge dog in this bet, but its not like he's a donk, he's one of the few famous old-school live players who has proven to be legit talented and capable of adapting to high stakes online games.

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Also, from memory, forhayley and sauce have posted ITT

Two weeks is probably a bit optimistic, but I think Daniel could be a winner at the high stakes tables.

1) He is a winner at the toughest tournaments in the world. Yes tournmanents and cash games are not the same, but with the slow structured tournaments he plays they are close. It is not like going from being a world class player at Chess to becoming a world class player at Go.

2) He has always played small ball which makes the transition easier.

3) Everyone seems to think that the regulars will play GTO. But since they would percieve Daniel as a potential fish it makes more sense to play exploitable poker. And exploitable poker is Daniels home turf.

4) Daniel has already shown that he is capable of adapting, he was a winner back in 2004 and he is still a winner.

5) I don't know anything about the buy in rules at the highstakes tables, but couldn't he adopt a short buy in strategy? It would then make more sense for the regulars to go after each other, and Daniel could exploit that. And if a known fish sits down he could buy more chips.

6)Hand reading skills are still the same between tournaments and cash games, and I would assume that Daniel is a very good hand reader.