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08-16-2014 , 03:38 PM

#351

ChickenDave

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Most live donkament pros are lolbroke fwiw

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08-16-2014 , 03:52 PM

#352

DaycareInferno

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If you find this amusing, you might also be entertained by this thread from 2009:

DN v 2eazy/Negreanu bashes Hellmuth (upcoming PAD cash game) on Mediocre Poker radio

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08-16-2014 , 03:53 PM

#353

5=2+2

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The thing is if he did actually did spend say 6 months studying the math and trying to catch up, he would still not be a winning online player and would still lose the million, but long term it would be a +EV move for him as his understanding of donkaments would of course also reach a new level.

It's a strange old World when the winning most player of all time in a game of math, actually understands very little about the math i.e. understands very little about the game (at least in comparison to the actual top players)

Life and it's paradoxical uncertainties

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08-16-2014 , 04:00 PM

#354

Zima421

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in for 50k against.

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08-16-2014 , 04:21 PM

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Fulzgold

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Someone should give him odds to make this actually happen.

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08-16-2014 , 04:24 PM

#356

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by Fulzgold

Someone should give him odds to make this actually happen.

Why should he get odds when he is the one who proclaimed that he'd bet a million on it and feels like he is such a favorite? ****, as good as HE thinks he is everyone betting against should get odds.. I mean, he does have Choice Center training on his side!

Last edited by iPlayPLOhigh; 08-16-2014 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Me thinks everyone would still bet against even at like 3-1

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08-16-2014 , 04:39 PM

#357

Fulzgold

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Because he probably won't do this at 1-1 imo! But I don't think he'd pass up odds.

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08-16-2014 , 04:43 PM

#358

Hong Kong

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Can we lock this thread already? I am getting blue balls.

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08-16-2014 , 04:43 PM

#359

MinusEV

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To those who still don't get it: DN is not going to do this no matter how much action he gets or how much money you are willing to put up against him so continuing to go on about it is pointless.

If his Israel/Palestine-tweets didn't get the message across: DN tweets a lot about stuff he has no clue about and has no intention, or capability, of backing up. This is no different. He's going to claim he can beat online high stakes NL and then not do anything to back it up. He's not looking for action - just attention.

Stop giving it to him imo.

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08-16-2014 , 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulzgold

Because he probably won't do this at 1-1 imo! But I don't think he'd pass up odds.

Stars would make it well worth his while I'm sure. You're probably right though, it'd take odds because I don't think he expected to have $1 million against in < 24 hours and was just trying to get his name in peoples mouth per usual.

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08-16-2014 , 04:54 PM

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Yesterday Negreanu tweeted:
"IMO the most valuable poker skill is self awareness. The ability to understand how your opponents perceive both your strengths and weakness".
https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/sta...59938442706946

I fear he's read so many self-help books that he's actually become deluded. Daniel used to seem very self-aware, well balanced and humble. He was the anti-Hellmuth and everyone liked him, but this ego-tripping is making me cringe so much. Self-awareness means recognising you're NOT god's gift.

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08-16-2014 , 04:57 PM

#362

YoungKhalifa

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

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08-16-2014 , 05:07 PM

#363

lingerfelter95

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So this is confirmed not going down, and he was just talking out of his ass on twitter?

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08-16-2014 , 05:23 PM

#364

angeles

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doubt this will happen. dnegs brings alot to poker but hes so delusional if he thinks he can beat even midstakes nl at this point

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08-16-2014 , 05:33 PM

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what does beat mean? if he one tabled, and game selected Im sure he could be up 1bb, after 10k hands

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08-16-2014 , 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingandtheduck

what does beat mean? if he one tabled, and game selected Im sure he could be up 1bb, after 10k hands

No, he couldn't.

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08-16-2014 , 05:49 PM

#367

KINGDMER

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08-16-2014 , 06:19 PM

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Assuming he plays 50k hands with 100bb/100hands std dev and winrate of -5bb/100 he would expect to lose 125k with ~111.8k USD standard deviation that puts his chances of netting a million at about 13.5%. So those assumptions constitute more or less break even proposition for him (loses 125k on average but nets 135k from side) with that kind of sample.

Just giving those to give a ballpark of numbers he would need to achieve to be +EV in that never-happening challenge.

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08-16-2014 , 06:45 PM

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the reason everyone is so butthurt must be that they themselves find online poker so hard they think it's impossible to beat 5k NLHE, it's not like Daniels new to poker. everyone seems really really mad/crying/butthurt, and I don't see why. who cares, most human beings could do this with the right motivation/coaching/time allocation, so the assumption a poker veteran could do it shouldn't seem so strange. yet everyone seems extremely rustled.

that being said, if DN backs out of this bet, that would be pretty lame imo.

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08-16-2014 , 06:52 PM

#370

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It's absurd how much hate Daniel gets considering how kind and entertaining he is and everything he does for poker.

^^ This.

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08-16-2014 , 07:15 PM

#371

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Originally Posted by David123

Dude, you really need to get a grip. Do you not see the various posts from
various NLHE experts saying he has no chance? Quit going against the crowd cause you think it's cool to be on the opposite side.

Cliffs: You're delusional. Listen to the people who play the actual games, who actually know how hard or how easy this bet would be.

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08-16-2014 , 07:27 PM

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Cliffs: Negreanu says he would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE, but would never bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE.

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08-16-2014 , 07:28 PM

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ten25

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People in this thread who are playing midstakes and crushing tourneys for millions like DN [ ]

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08-16-2014 , 07:37 PM

#374

iPlayPLOhigh

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Originally Posted by ten25

People in this thread who are playing midstakes and crushing tourneys for millions like DN [ ]

You do realize "crushing live tournaments for millions" (because he doesn't sell action or anything) has very little to do w/ one's ability to beat some of the hardest cash games on the internet, right?

It's like saying Peyton Manning would be one of the best running backs in the NFL because he's a great QB.

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08-16-2014 , 07:38 PM

#375

ten25

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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh

If these players primary goal is to make money, and are so good, surely they would be out crushing tournaments like DN... and I'm in no way saying these games aren't tough. I'm sure they are very tough... but it's funny to see people bashing him when he's one of the most profitable players of all time. If any of these players could come close to what he is making on tourneys and they are playing to make $ then they would be out there doing it.

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