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08-16-2014 , 05:30 AM

#276

Ramifications

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 29

2p2 should gather a "pool" or something to bet against, must be +EV (depenant of odds).

Seat-script or not does not matter. The elite of internet would sit DN in an instant. I bet some of them are drooling just thinking about it.

There is also a substanial difference between 25/50 and 500z. Duh.

Last edited by Ramifications; 08-16-2014 at 05:35 AM.

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08-16-2014 , 05:51 AM

#277

ChicagoJoey

Papi

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,583

the easy solution for him to make it more +ev is to never play any regular tables and only play 25/50 zoom or 50/100 zoom

you end up with a mix of fish, bottom/middling regs, shot takers and the usual cast of characters but imo gives him a much better chance

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08-16-2014 , 05:52 AM

#278

Ramifications

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

the easy solution for him to make it more +ev is to never play any regular tables and only play 25/50 zoom or 50/100 zoom

you end up with a mix of fish, bottom/middling regs, shot takers and the usual cast of characters but imo gives him a much better chance

He is going to play NL? 25/50z and 50/100z doesnt run like ever.

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08-16-2014 , 05:55 AM

#279

ChicagoJoey

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Originally Posted by Ramifications

He is going to play NL? 25/50z and 50/100z doesnt run like ever.

obviously it will if he is sitting, its magic

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08-16-2014 , 05:57 AM

#280

Ramifications

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

obviously it will if he is sitting, its magic

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08-16-2014 , 06:01 AM

#281

worpler

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,817

b/e after 100% rb?

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08-16-2014 , 06:15 AM

#282

The4thFilm

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How terrible was in the superstar showdown against Isildur?

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08-16-2014 , 07:17 AM

#283

Atlantis1

adept

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,006

Looking to bet $25000 against DN. Please contact me if you are in contact with DN and have some bets lined up. Willing to pay GOOD vig on order to hop on with you.

Let me know please.

Thanks.

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08-16-2014 , 07:22 AM

#284

CyberShark93

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

the easy solution for him to make it more +ev is to never play any regular tables and only play 25/50 zoom or 50/100 zoom

you end up with a mix of fish, bottom/middling regs, shot takers and the usual cast of characters but imo gives him a much better chance

can u do a podcast on this? i know u usually do only PLO stuff but i think it would be interesting

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08-16-2014 , 07:25 AM

#285

Negri

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 80

what is it that the scripts pick up on ?

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08-16-2014 , 07:32 AM

#286

ChicagoJoey

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,583

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Originally Posted by CyberShark93

can u do a podcast on this? i know u usually do only PLO stuff but i think it would be interesting

As of yesterday I am planning to do both games

I was thinking of putting something short together on this potential prop bet and try to break everything down a bit better (similar to the Urubu propbet video) for people who might be unfamiliar with scripts, the current state of the games, how easy/hard this might be, etc..... I probably wasn't going to actually do it but because you asked I will.

Will be up in the next 12-16 hours!

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08-16-2014 , 07:41 AM

#287

sergeisergei

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 104

Would be a decent hustle if he's already taking coaching just for this and keeps the conversation flowing for next few months and then decides to "start it from the scratch".

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08-16-2014 , 07:46 AM

#288

KINGDMER

See my staking forum thread

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,002

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

As of yesterday I am planning to do both games

Your favourite youtuber providing you with material

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08-16-2014 , 07:48 AM

#289

KINGDMER

See my staking forum thread

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,002

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Originally Posted by sergeisergei

Would be a decent hustle if he's already taking coaching just for this and keeps the conversation flowing for next few months and then decides to "start it from the scratch".

Not really- I dont think he could ever get to that level never mind in 'a few months'.

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08-16-2014 , 08:01 AM

#290

KennyJPowers

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,386

Not to mention its a big side bet and if he is getting coached its going to be by one of the highstakes regs probably Ike or Kanu as there with pokerstars, there not going to ruin there reputation with some shady hustle

and like you said i dont think it matters a month, 6 or even a year of coaching and putting in a huge amount of time to learn alot of theory that i doubt he has even heard of before

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08-16-2014 , 08:13 AM

#291

KennyJPowers

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

As of yesterday I am planning to do both games

Nice one Joey

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08-16-2014 , 08:16 AM

#292

samooth

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Originally Posted by Fulzgold

no. It's not a large sample of online hands. Especially given the higher variance nature of high stakes, which increases standard deviation. Captain Obvious imo.

captain dumb imo. you start by stating that 50k is not large, but fail to say what large means or at what point large is reached. then you say that x^2 is larger when the game is played aggressively, and that this means that x is larger as well. time to stop posting.

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08-16-2014 , 08:27 AM

#293

Hong Kong

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This is never happening, but at least i got a few minutes satisfaction imagining it would, and Daniel got some satisfaction that people are talking about him again.

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08-16-2014 , 08:32 AM

#294

psychosocial

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,345

we'll be lucky if DN plays on 2 tables... especially at zoom he's just not used to playing that fast. 50k hands is out of the question but lets be real here. if he's going to get crushed as bad as most are saying, then after 10k hands we'll know if he's a winner. just review the HHs and it'll be pretty obvious with showdowns and other plays if he can compete in the games. in live poker you can't wait for some magic milestone hand number because it moves too slow. after 10k hands his graph looks like gus or CL then its pretty obvious

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08-16-2014 , 09:00 AM

#295

Spades!

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 136

MAKE
IT
HAPPEN

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08-16-2014 , 09:06 AM

#296

epcfast

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Originally Posted by Negri

what is it that the scripts pick up on ?

Hair plugs

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08-16-2014 , 09:15 AM

#297

Jbrochu

banned

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Originally Posted by Negri

what is it that the scripts pick up on ?

My guess is they just compare the user name against a list of known solid players. If the screen name isn't known, it grabs a seat.

Maybe they also target whales first, so first loop checks against a small list of known whales and grabs a seat if name is on the list, if not run it through the other loop against known solid players as above.

I can't imagine they are grabbing the user name and then looking up stats or anything like that. Would probably be too slow.

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08-16-2014 , 09:20 AM

#298

ImJason

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Did DN delete the tweets?

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08-16-2014 , 09:20 AM

#299

JPantz

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DN saying he lives in Vegas and doesn't want to leave for two months to do this. Isn't he Canadian? Is there no visa requirement for Canadians and how long he can stay in the US or has he become a US citizen?