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Daniel Negreanu on how he hates Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer and his 'personal betrayal' Daniel Negreanu on how he hates Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer and his 'personal betrayal'

02-09-2012 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Stu
"They edited down my comments about Ray Bitar, Howard Lederer, and Chris Ferguson, but they definitely got the gist of my vitriol towards them. I'm disgusted by them and what they've done to smear the game with putrid decision making.

"You guys suck. I hope to never see any of your faces at the WSOP anymore, and I hope you live with the shame you deserve for the rest of your lives. Your own personal, private hell. You deserve all the wrath you've received from the poker world, and much more. You are scum and each of you absolutely deserves a few swift baseball bat swings to the groin area, old school Vegas style." -- DN
approved.
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02-09-2012 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bonlins
his self image is undeniably insanely deluded. i'd argue far moreso than hellmuth or anyone else in the poker world.
wrong, he admitted that the game basically passed him by and he spent a ton of time and effort cleaning up his leaks by playing with and seeking advice from the best shorthanded cash grinders in the world (at some of the highest levels, no less), this is not something you'll ever find phil helmuth doing.
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02-09-2012 , 09:14 AM
he seems a gud guy.

jenny harman has that, kinky look about her
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02-09-2012 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
wrong, he admitted that the game basically passed him by and he spent a ton of time and effort cleaning up his leaks by playing with and seeking advice from the best shorthanded cash grinders in the world (at some of the highest levels, no less), this is not something you'll ever find phil helmuth doing.
That's not true or fair. Phil Hellmuth sought out advices from Layne Flack
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02-09-2012 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tiltnonstop
i was under the impressium that daniel came very, very close to pulling a jesus himself (on a much, much smaller scale, fcp was garbage after all), and he was only rescued when the white knight pokerstars came in and covered all the deposits/losses. am i wrong here? i wonder what would have happened to daniels reputation if it wasn´t for that miraculous takeover (to most fish, he´s still a hero after all).
I want to say that I recall this myself.

I have for some time as well become increasingly irritated when listening to or seeing DN.

In this thread, it appears the defense is that his points are absolutely allowable, which they are. The haters are picking on whatever they can and there are lots of valid points as well, depending how judgmental one wants to be.

But there is something that does not come up in this thread, although it was approached with the above quote:

Has DN ever completed anything that took longer than nine weeks?

Has he ever really finished anything he ever started?

How long did All Strategy last? Six weeks?

What happened to that PokerVT podcast he had Stapleton doing?

I have no problem giving him credit where he deserves it. French and Spanish do take some time to learn.





He seems flighty. And to me, it has really hurt the action of a lot of people around him that we also like to follow.

It's irritating to know there are many more people in the industry with a lot more follow through and commitment.

I hated reading that article. As much as it was a good read, when he gets to Miss Hungary, it looks like he copied and pasted what he told us about his ex-wife. And that just reminds me of everyone else that seemed to go that direction...

....and it is disappointing. I didn't really learn anything new and it wasn't really surprising. It was a fine pulpy dramatic read by DN.

As for the hate, I have thought that was just me. He seems like a good kid. But I don't get that he is any more capable of being responsible than 98% of the people in this industry.
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02-09-2012 , 11:36 AM
[x] Writing about your personal life on your widely read blog = wanting sympathy = pathetic.

[ ] Beats televised cash games.

[x] One of the most overrated cash game players in the world.
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02-09-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Salt
Chinamaniac is god.

FYP
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02-09-2012 , 01:31 PM
ffs, elaborish mother****er, do you speak it.

Last edited by LeapFrog; 02-09-2012 at 01:34 PM. Reason: g is for gossip imo
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02-09-2012 , 01:35 PM
Daniel would be the type to go for the groin in a battle
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02-09-2012 , 07:44 PM
DN tweeted that he golfing today in a threesome of Vanessa Selbst and two other players. Vanessa is a formidable opponent she really knows her way around the rough.
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02-09-2012 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by News777
DN tweeted that he golfing today in a threesome of Vanessa Selbst and two other players. Vanessa is a formidable opponent she really knows her way around the rough.
Interesting point, but i think she is pretty weak off the tee. She just doesn't seem comfortable with a wood in her hands.
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02-09-2012 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by News777
DN tweeted that he golfing today in a threesome of Vanessa Selbst and two other players. Vanessa is a formidable opponent she really knows her way around the rough.
I have heard her putting game is questionable too, whilst she is confident in delivery apparently she is prone to lip out of holes.

Last edited by Disinterested; 02-09-2012 at 09:41 PM.
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02-10-2012 , 12:46 AM
Danny needs to just come out and find hisself a nice guy to putt with.

Women just dont do it for him.
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02-10-2012 , 01:18 AM
He talks some absolute ****.
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02-10-2012 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
There's a pic she posted on twitter of what looks like her, a guy holding her and someone else on a truck with the sun behind the guy's head that was taken at burningman. That guy kinda looks like Sebok.
Sebok is a facebook friend and there has been heaps of pics of these two together lately in couple type poses.
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02-10-2012 , 04:58 AM
wow
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02-10-2012 , 05:35 AM
he is a good guy.
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02-10-2012 , 05:56 AM
+1 to chinamaniac's post. have never understand how phil hellmuth has gotten a pass from seemingly the entire poker world (both casual fans a well as people in a position to be heard). he didn't change a thing after the numerous scandals broke and continued to shill for UB until the day they stopped paying him. at best he was willfully ignorant of what was happening at UB (which is inexcusable given how hard he pimped their product to anyone willing to deposit), at worst he was complicit in the vast web of fraud and deception at ub. daniel i know you are following this thread, i would love to hear how you reconcile your silence on hellmuth with your "i've never been one to stand by while i see people doing wrong" stance.
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02-16-2012 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bucsappy
[x] Writing about your personal life on your widely read blog = wanting sympathy = pathetic.

[ ] Beats televised cash games.

[x] One of the most overrated cash game players in the world.
[ ] funny comments
[x] jealous hater living in moms basement
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02-16-2012 , 12:42 PM
Can Tom and Phil please throw chris and howard under the bus now??? Seriously i'd like to know WTF is going on with FTP and Money, and WTF they are doing about it!
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02-16-2012 , 12:48 PM
+1 to the thread title change, but you left out Ray Bitar.

Why?

Last edited by VP$IP; 02-16-2012 at 12:57 PM.
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02-16-2012 , 07:25 PM
Have to agree with Centurion on this issue.

At least Daniel has the courage of his conviction and says what he believes, and the Full Tilt issue has perhaps been sidelined and DNs recent comments do seem reasonable, feel sorry for all those people who lost their money on FT do they have any recourse?
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02-18-2012 , 05:45 AM
Good for Negreanu on his recent video blog, I bet Ferguson will impress all the other inmates with his banana slicing and ball room dancing skills. Oh yeah the long hair too!

I found it hard to believe that so many people turned out to support Howard's sisters epic poker league. Annie had to have known what was going on and most likely benefited from it as well. Maybe thats how she's able to run a rake free poker league.

So what's up what are the rest of the Full Tilt pro's saying about this and I wonder how many of them knew what was going on???
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02-18-2012 , 05:51 AM
Meh, it's not hard to talk tough behind a computer screen.
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02-18-2012 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Morph3us
Meh, it's not hard to talk tough behind a computer screen.
At least he has the balls to say it and I am sure anyone of them could find him at the next major tournament. I don't hear any other pro's coming out this publicly and saying what everyone is thinking that had there money takin from these scumbags!!!
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