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Daniel Negreanu on how he hates Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer and his 'personal betrayal' Daniel Negreanu on how he hates Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer and his 'personal betrayal'

02-08-2012 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by coolnout
I don't remember him saying anything bad about Lederer and Ferguson when he was appearing on TV with them. Kind of easy now isn't it?
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02-08-2012 , 12:06 AM
lol @ some of the responses ITT hating on DN

He publicly calls out Annie Duke for being a hag and untrustworthy (fact)

He calls out Bitar, Jesus and Howard for being scumbags (fact)

He rips on people who deserve to get ripped on.

Not sure how anyone can fault him for speaking his mind. He is likable, never been linked to a poker scandal, makes himself available to the public via blogs, videos and interviews.

I can't think of a better person to represent the poker world than Daniel. He isn't linked to any shady bulls**t and has the balls to make controversial statements knowing full well that certain people will bash him for it.

and another huge lol @ anyone who even thinks for a minute he was lying about having his Stars account hacked.

get real
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02-08-2012 , 01:05 AM
I played day 1 of one of the limit events at WSOP last year with Daniel (sorry for the slowroll Daniel)

Very nice guy, approachable and very classy at the table. When the topic came up about Ivey suing FTP he was pretty vocal about Iveys lawsuit and how Phil had no idea about what was going on and he referred to lawsuit as Phil Ivey suing "the owner" of FTP but never referred to Phil as an "owner if I remember correctly.


Now I believe Phil was just just a face here for the most part but if I am not mistaken he was one of the bigger shareholders with FTP and an original investor. So Phil deserves some criticism for not looking after his investment if indeed this was his position. I am sure there is a very good chance he was fed BS or just took checks and never asked questions but that doesn't make Phil unaccountable if indeed this was his business. If this was his business and he was taking checks shouldn't he be looking into it pretty deeply? The fact that he didn't he deserves some criticism for.

For the most part I think Daniel is on the money with his opinions with things in poker and he says he would make a terrible politician because he tells it like it is or says whats on his mind.

But while calling out all of the scumbags like Russ Hamilton and Annie Duke and Howard and Jesus, he leaves out people like Phil Ivey and Phil Hellmuth. I already went over Phils possible guilt due to being an owner but what about Daniels buddy Phil Hellmuth?

Daniel has no problem calling out Annie but if I am not mistaken Phil Hellmuth was a shareholder at UB and partial owner. Phil Hellmuth is a guy who pretty much reaped MILLIONS of dollars in endorsement/ownership money from UB but it seems he gets a free pass and should be looked at as a cancer in the poker industry and a terrible ambassador for the game. There are millions of dollars in player money that the players will never see and Phil Hellmuth is out riding around in limos popping bottles of Dom mingling at celebrity parties but he get's a free pass. If he was as nice of guy as people say he is off the table he would do the right thing and give every cent from UB back to the players.

But Phil would never do that because he is a fraud and he worked for and raked in money hand over fist from Ultimate Bet all the while defending the company and the new owners (LMAO @ new owners) and luring in new traffic while endorsing them.

If Daniel is going to call out all these other scumbags and has no problem ripping Annie Duke why not lump in his buddy Phil Hellmuth for what he is. A complete and total FRAUD who was the biggest UB enabler of them all. Without the addition of player money in his pockets to play all of these events and TV cash games he would probably be where he was most of his poker career before the endorsements came in. BROKE

Last edited by chinamaniac; 02-08-2012 at 01:11 AM.
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02-08-2012 , 02:00 AM
very well written blog and brought up some decent points
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02-08-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SKEEZ
very well written blog and brought up some decent points
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02-08-2012 , 02:21 AM
can somebody please shed some light on the history of full contact poker?

i was under the impressium that daniel came very, very close to pulling a jesus himself (on a much, much smaller scale, fcp was garbage after all), and he was only rescued when the white knight pokerstars came in and covered all the deposits/losses. am i wrong here? i wonder what would have happened to daniels reputation if it wasn´t for that miraculous takeover (to most fish, he´s still a hero after all).

nobody would even talk or care (oh wait: KNOW) about what happened at full tilt poker if they had sold the company immediately post BF.
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02-08-2012 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinky Stu
"They edited down my comments about Ray Bitar, Howard Lederer, and Chris Ferguson, but they definitely got the gist of my vitriol towards them. I'm disgusted by them and what they've done to smear the game with putrid decision making.

"You guys suck. I hope to never see any of your faces at the WSOP anymore, and I hope you live with the shame you deserve for the rest of your lives. Your own personal, private hell. You deserve all the wrath you've received from the poker world, and much more. You are scum and each of you absolutely deserves a few swift baseball bat swings to the groin area, old school Vegas style." -- DN
i mean i don´t like jesus, lederer etc, but dn is just a deluded, spoiled, little brat if he posts **** like this.

who does he think he is? a saint or something? just ****ing lol.
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02-08-2012 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CGM
lol @ some of the responses ITT hating on DN

He publicly calls out Annie Duke for being a hag and untrustworthy (fact)

He calls out Bitar, Jesus and Howard for being scumbags (fact)

He rips on people who deserve to get ripped on.

Not sure how anyone can fault him for speaking his mind. He is likable, never been linked to a poker scandal, makes himself available to the public via blogs, videos and interviews.

I can't think of a better person to represent the poker world than Daniel. He isn't linked to any shady bulls**t and has the balls to make controversial statements knowing full well that certain people will bash him for it.

and another huge lol @ anyone who even thinks for a minute he was lying about having his Stars account hacked.

get real
+1
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02-08-2012 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Def the most self-absorbed attention whore
You're pretty far up there yourself.
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02-08-2012 , 04:28 AM
Chinamaniac nails it.

Too often these anti-certain-scumbag rants are focused only on the people the poster personally dislikes, while their friends, guilty of the same thing, get a pass.

Ferguson and Lederer deserve all the hate they're getting, as does Annie Duke, but Negreanu needs to be fair and devote the same criticism to Hellmuth and Ivey.

I will, however, say that I believe Annie to be more hate-worthy than Hellmuth, because Annie stupidly came out and defended UB, while Hellmuth stayed quiet. But it's also wrong to give Hellmuth a pass, as he profited big time from that terrible company, and it was his endorsement power that brought a lot of innocent people there. He didn't jump ship until it was way, way too late.
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02-08-2012 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
It would also be impossible to find out if Daniel was actually from the future. So stop with the speculative nonsense.
Surely if Daniel was from the future he would know his opponents hole cards and so would never lose a hand, therefore it is possible to know if he's from the future.
I hope this helps.
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02-08-2012 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Salt
Chinamaniac nails it.

this ^^
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02-08-2012 , 06:01 PM
full contact poker ( Daniel ) must of used his players list from that site when he moved to stars. I used to own a forum at the time which had 2000 + members who I remember were complaining that after Daniel moved to stars they started getting blasted with pokerstars promotions.

Its obvious when he left he brought his list with him and used it for his affiliate for stars. this is shady so I don't trust him or any other pro out there.
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02-08-2012 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dobleeltd
Weasel: a sneaky, untrustworthy, or insincere person.

Amonst Vegas regulars we don't say Daniel nor Negreanu we just say "The Weasel" and all know whom we are referring to.

Wonder if his "personal betrayal" issue is related to JH and his finally discovering the truth relative to the line of BS she has been feeding the "gullible him" for years relative to the source of her wealth. Wonder if "pathological liar" rings a bell as it might relate to "personal betrayal"?????????????????
Elaborate +1
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02-08-2012 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CGM
lol @ some of the responses ITT hating on DN

He publicly calls out Annie Duke for being a hag and untrustworthy (fact)

He calls out Bitar, Jesus and Howard for being scumbags (fact)

He rips on people who deserve to get ripped on.

Not sure how anyone can fault him for speaking his mind. He is likable, never been linked to a poker scandal, makes himself available to the public via blogs, videos and interviews.

I can't think of a better person to represent the poker world than Daniel. He isn't linked to any shady bulls**t and has the balls to make controversial statements knowing full well that certain people will bash him for it.

and another huge lol @ anyone who even thinks for a minute he was lying about having his Stars account hacked.

get real
+1

He also says nice things about Galfond which is cool.
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02-08-2012 , 08:59 PM
lol at him not having an rsa token
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02-08-2012 , 09:55 PM
daniels a good dude.
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02-08-2012 , 11:43 PM
lol at all the hate for Daniel. Nothing wrong with him speaking his mind, much better than him not saying anything imo. People in high social positions need to speak up sometimes, some other pros could take a leaf
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02-08-2012 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by illious
Elaborate +1
TELL US ABOUT JEN HARMAN.

OMFG, why would you say this and leave it at that........

TELL US
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02-08-2012 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HundredsOfStuff
lol at him not having an rsa token
Like if he got hacked pokestars wouldnt give him his money back. Do you really think they will let there number one pro get hacked and tell people that the site isnt safe???
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02-09-2012 , 02:01 AM
lol @ all these attention whoring inet kiddies trying to make Daniel look bad.

Well said Mr. Negreanu, as usual.
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02-09-2012 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AKingdom
Whoa, he couldn't stand looking at PA's mug? I hope DN realizes many people don't particularly enjoy looking at his (DN's) either.
Like all of us he prefers to look at pa's bare chest
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02-09-2012 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dobleeltd
Weasel: a sneaky, untrustworthy, or insincere person.

Amonst Vegas regulars we don't say Daniel nor Negreanu we just say "The Weasel" and all know whom we are referring to.

Wonder if his "personal betrayal" issue is related to JH and his finally discovering the truth relative to the line of BS she has been feeding the "gullible him" for years relative to the source of her wealth. Wonder if "pathological liar" rings a bell as it might relate to "personal betrayal"?????????????????
'I only post once every year, but when i do its onehellevapostmofos!!'
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02-09-2012 , 06:28 AM
Is he a fan, or not?
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02-09-2012 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Like if he got hacked pokestars wouldnt give him his money back. Do you really think they will let there number one pro get hacked and tell people that the site isnt safe???
Him getting hacked had nothing to do with the security of Stars. It was his email provider and possibly (probably actually) a poorly chosen password.
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