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Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!? Daniel Negreanu challenging Liverpool keeper Jose Reina to a penalty shootout?!?!?
View Poll Results: Who wins this bet?
Daniel wins easily
144 19.67%
Daniel has an edge
196 26.78%
Reina has an edge
179 24.45%
Reina wins easily
213 29.10%

10-03-2009 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
he'd do it easily
Nah i dont think so,as the guy said above,im an irish lad so i thinn i know the type of player he is on about.It isnt easy to beat a 6 foot plus lad from 12 yards especially the fact that they are unbeliavbly fit and that negreanu isnt a top quality player.I can knock it by my keeper from 12 yards but im only 18 and im not a pro.Reina is a professional and probably the best in europe and most definitly the best in the premier league so this is not easy at all.PLus...... He is known for his good record at saving penaltys just lok it up!


I BET NEGREANU LOSES THE BET OR I CUD BE RONG AND THE NEGREANU MAY HAVE A FOTBALL BRAIN ABOUT HIM AND MIT EBE ABLE TO BEAT HIM...BUT IT REQUIRES IT TECHNIQUE AND STRENGHT IN THE FOOT
10-03-2009 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
he'd do it easily
surely someone capable of posting anywhere this many times cant be this dumb. must be a level
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Originally Posted by BKiCe
it's pretty fascinating how divided (and strong-minded about their opinions) people are on this bet
extreme levels of stupidity annoy me (and i presume others) intensely. the fact it is clueless idiots commenting who have obviously never faced a half decent goalkeeper, and state there opinions as fact, is incredibly irritating.i have faced a half decent goalkeeper. and failed, miserably, as have countless others who hav played regularly for years. and he wouldnt be a patch on reina, or he wouldnt be playing for the love of the game (ie for free).
10-03-2009 , 10:49 PM
I think Daniel is a very good bet. This is a penalty kick we are talking about...

If it were from 1/4 field thats another story.
10-03-2009 , 10:50 PM
i think the analogy with federer is a pretty good one, but you would have to reverse it so fed was returning rather than serving.

any one think they can score a point on serve vs fed, given 5 serves?
10-03-2009 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by insomniac86
i think the analogy with federer is a pretty good one, but you would have to reverse it so fed was returning rather than serving.

any one think they can score a point on serve vs fed, given 5 serves?
i can serve from right in front of the net right?
10-03-2009 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
I've played soccer for more than 10 years and I doubt that I would be able to score once.
then you`re alot worse then you should be. I would take this bet any day of the week. I`m pretty sure id be a favorite to get 2+ also. Alot of football newbs itt.

DN is prob a big underdog if he hasen`t played football at any level.
10-03-2009 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by insomniac86
i think the analogy with federer is a pretty good one, but you would have to reverse it so fed was returning rather than serving.

any one think they can score a point on serve vs fed, given 5 serves?
I assume a random person off the street could return maybe 1/100 for a point.
10-03-2009 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sven O
DN is prob a big underdog if he hasen`t played football at any level.
Agree.

I've seen a pro US goalkeeper taking penalty shots for a good hour straight from the general public (I don't remember his name, this was the keeper for the Tampa Rowdies in the mid-80's) . The vast majority of them didn't have any chance of scoring. Some obviously had experience or were naturally very strong, and those folks had some chance of getting lucky with perfect placement.

I think I saw maybe 1 in 40 or so shots go in. If DN is not an experienced and practiced player with a very strong leg, I think he's a big underdog. I think people are vastly underestimating how good these pro keepers are. They're lightning fast and know where you're going before you do.
10-03-2009 , 11:35 PM
lol at the clueless idiots thinking it will be easy to score
10-03-2009 , 11:40 PM
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Read the whole thread. Never been more tilted in my life. 95% of the replies itt makes me wanna poke my eyes out. adsfrsgtrbevgrbevgtbrwtrwbrvrbgbfvdsgbfvrgbfvgd
10-03-2009 , 11:42 PM
If I had £12k I would most certainly bet Reina that I could score atleast 1/5 against him. Infact I'm pretty sure most of the people over the age of 15 in the UK would. Not that he's a bad keeper, but all you need is a decent level of accuracy and power. He won't guess the correct way every time.
10-03-2009 , 11:42 PM
I think DN has a shot....if he trains for like a month with someone shooting penalties for hours and hours (which I assume is what he will do).

If he has to do this in a week then no chance. He will need lots of time to practice.
10-03-2009 , 11:44 PM
You guys talking about the velocity of the shot are nuts. It's obviously more placement important.

You would have to hit it REALLY damn slow (by normal soccer standards) for the best and longest-armed keeper in the world to be able to get to it in the corner.

I play soccer. I do not have a terribly powerful leg. I could score on 1 out of 5. Geez, I know girls who can score on 1 out of 5 (seriously).
10-04-2009 , 12:07 AM
This thread is the nut worst in 2+2 history.
10-04-2009 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Icarus911
surely someone capable of posting anywhere this many times cant be this dumb. must be a level
Lolz, moron. Do you watch soccer?


If Negreanu practiced for a month taking PK, he scores easily. Do you have any ****ing clue how hard it is for a goalie to save a penalty? They usually make the save when one of the following things happen:

-Penalty taker miss-strikes the ball
-Penalty taker tries something dumb

Basically a keeper has to guess properly, and hope for some luck to save a shot. Placed strikes are nearly impossible for a keeper to save, and if they guess the wrong way, GG, its done.

Massive LOL at some of the fish in this thread that think Reina stops all five attempts. He's not even the best keeper in the premier league, for christ's sake.
10-04-2009 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Then watch the video on the top, the penalty was PERFECT and he still saved it!

And you wanna bet on that? I am willing to bet on the outcome if it's happening, would be kinda cool if DN could confirm and even name dates.
I'll bet straight up on this with you.. $100, message me.
10-04-2009 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
So the dutch players missing penalties didn't want it?

Wow. If you place the ball in the corner and kick it with enough pace there is no way the keeper saves it? Now that you have pointed this out I guess nobody will ever miss a penalty again.

You have wrecked the penalty shootout forever. Now that the players know the way to score is to put the ball in the corner where the keeper can't reach it, the shootouts will go on forever.
You don't watch football/soccer, do you?
10-04-2009 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
Lolz, moron. Do you watch soccer?
Most of the games I've seen on TV and live were pros vs pros.

The leg of a guy off the street is extremely weak in comparison, and far more erratic. The ball will look slo-mo in comparison, and he'll probably put 3 or 4 wide or over or gimme up-the-middle just by nerves.

Last edited by eastbay; 10-04-2009 at 12:44 AM.
10-04-2009 , 12:40 AM
imo his best bet is to get metaltoe boots, n toekick blast it in.. it'll help give him some power as I doubt he'd be able to kick hard properly.

"nerves. "

I doubt DN will be nervous over a 12k prop bet

As for goalkeepers.. I've seen a lot of shootouts where every player in the team has scored til the point that the keeper is taking penos, and then it keeps going.

Also, dont have to blast the ball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovHb...om=PL&index=10

di canio chipping it into the middle of the goal
Even though im an arsenal fan, that was a peeach
10-04-2009 , 12:41 AM
As with most threads regarding sports 2p2ers are always on 2 extreme ends.

Basically, as long as Daniel has played soccer as a hobby for a longish period he should make around 2/10 penalties. I mean he can just go up and kick the ball his hardest 5 times and he would get it in the corner, out of Reina's reach at least once.
10-04-2009 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDrTurtleRick
"nerves. "

I doubt DN will be nervous over a 12k prop bet
It's not about the money. Would you be nervous playing 1-on-1 vs Lebron James for $5? It's about looking stupid doing something you're mismatched at.

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Also, dont have to blast the ball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovHb...om=PL&index=10
A pro doesn't have to, because a keeper has to commit early vs a pro. He won't have to commit early against DN.
10-04-2009 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by eastbay
The leg of a guy off the street is extremely weak in comparison, and far more erratic. The ball will look slo-mo in comparison, and he'll probably put 3 or 4 wide or over or gimme up-the-middle just by nerves.
Go look at how large the goal is, and how close you are from the spot. Missing the target is far more unlikely then you think. Usually players miss the target because they kick the ball too hard or slip. Seriously, this bet is as close to a lock as you will get.

As my gunner brother just stated. DN can toe punch the **** out of the ball, to either side of the goalie. Out of 5 attempts, he's not stopping one, guaranteed. Goalies spend time reviewing tapes of teams penalty takers looking for patterns, and if an attempt comes up during the game, they guess right before the ball is kicked. They don't have time to react. Its would be the same here.
10-04-2009 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshur
As with most threads regarding sports 2p2ers are always on 2 extreme ends.

Basically, as long as Daniel has played soccer as a hobby for a longish period he should make around 2/10 penalties. I mean he can just go up and kick the ball his hardest 5 times and he would get it in the corner, out of Reina's reach at least once.
Okay this is not just shooting the ball into the back of the net with one of your friends playing the keeper. This is one of the best keepers in the world right now. Yes i know that if you place a ball perfectly it cannot be physically saved. But I am pretty sure that DN doesn't have the power to make the keeper guess a direction. Not saying that DN doesn't have a chance, but it is def not walk in a park like some of you guys are making it out to be.
10-04-2009 , 03:37 AM
naw man, 1 out of 5 attempts, its a cake walk. He can just kick it as hard as he can and if Reina guesses wrong or just assumes it will be a soft kick, its done. I could see Reina totally botching the first attempt, which as long as its on target, is going in. Go out and practice kicking pk's, its absurdly easy.
10-04-2009 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
Go look at how large the goal is, and how close you are from the spot.
I played soccer for many years before I hurt my back.

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They don't have time to react. Its would be the same here.
I agree toe punch might be a good strategy for a guy off the street. I don't agree that this keeper will have no time to react.

I've seen rank amateurs take shots at pro keepers with my own two eyes. It is far harder than you are suggesting.

Of course he could get one. I still give the edge to the keeper.

      
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